SSJ Gohan (Super Hero arc) vs. SSJB Goku (RoF)

[Papasmurf]

Have the Saiyans gotten strong enough that they can contend with RoF Blues in SSJ form?

 

[GSM123]

If SSJ Goku Black can trade blows SSJB Vegeta, then I guess they can.

 

[Papasmurf]

If SSJ Goku Black can trade blows SSJB Vegeta, then I guess they can.

So who do you think wins this battle?

 

[Animelover5487]

If SSJ Goku Black can trade blows SSJB Vegeta, then I guess they can.

Goku Black's base before zenkais was already stronger than SS3 and his SSJ and Rose form multipliers don't seem to be as big as the actual Saiyans so he's a special case.

 

[GSM123]

So who do you think wins this battle?

I’m going to say SSJ Gohan today, but I might change my mind by tomorrow. This shit is whack.

Goku Black's base before zenkais was already stronger than SS3 and his SSJ and Rose form multipliers don't seem to be as big as the actual Saiyans so he's a special case.

SSJR is definitely nerfed, but SSJ is definitely less.

Even then, SSJ2 Vegeta dominating a guy stronger than SSJ3 Goku already implies some gains. Also both animr and manga have feats that could suggest U7 Base Saiyans > U6 SSJs in the ToP.

 

[Animelover5487]

I’m going to say SSJ Gohan today, but I might change my mind by tomorrow. This shit is whack.



SSJR is definitely nerfed, but SSJ is definitely less.

Even then, SSJ2 Vegeta dominating a guy stronger than SSJ3 Goku already implies some gains. Also both animr and manga have feats that could suggest U7 Base Saiyans > U6 SSJs in the ToP.

You are actually right. Base Goku and Freeza were equally beat up after their fight in the manga before the ToP and Base Freeza > Frost and the latter was closer to SSJ tier then Base during the U6 arc.

I go back and forth between Vegeta getting a rage boost in his fight with Black to him just training to get that strong but it's probably the latter.

 

[Papasmurf]

You are actually right. Base Goku and Freeza were equally beat up after their fight in the manga before the ToP and Base Freeza > Frost and the latter was closer to SSJ tier then Base during the U6 arc.

Who says they fought in base though? They probably went Blue and Golden to fight like in the anime.

 

[Animelover5487]

Who says they fought in base though? They probably went Blue and Golden to fight like in the anime.

Probably.