SSj Goku (Namek) vs Mecha-Freeza

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Freeza after a good fight
 

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Freeza has the edge. No real reason to dispute that he's stronger with cybernetic enhancements when his organic self was already on par with this Goku.
 

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He was weaker than Goku
 

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How long had it been? A year and a half since Nameki's explosion? And Freeza said he could beat a potentially improved Goku. No reason to think Goku could win this.
 

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Freeza knows about Goku getting far stronger since he battled Vegeta on Earth. Doesn't take a genius to figure out he may be stronger in their next meeting.
 

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Guliver said:
He never said improved
He doesn't have to. He knows how long it's been since he fought Goku. He knows Goku is a martial artist who trains. He can put 2 and 2 together.
 

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He seems to be talking about the power he knew
 

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All he said was that he may be able to win on his own, but with Cold's help it would be a certainty. Nowhere does he mention he only feels confident against Goku's power as it was on Namek.
 

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Freeza would win after a good fight... IMO the fight would looks like Golden Freeza (no time limit) Vs Goku SSGSS, with Goku being the later lol.

Goku SSJ (namek) 300,000,000
Mecha Freeza (100%) 320,000,000
 

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Why even bring Freeza back if he's still weaker than Namek Goku? It makes his cybernetic enhancements seem like a pointless power up.
 

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I dont think he expected him to be stronger
Nothing implies so

Goku also didnt get multiple times stronger as he just mastered the Shinkan Ido
 

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In FnF, he didnt expect he would get that much stronger
 

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Mike said:
Why even bring Freeza back if he's still weaker than Namek Goku? It makes his cybernetic enhancements seem like a pointless power up.
He was somewhat stronger

His return was pointless as he got beaten by Trunks
 

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I said his power up would pointless <small><small>(if he didn't even surpass someone he was close to before his power up)</small></small>, not his return.
 

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Goku SSJ ( namek ) 300,000,000
Mecha Freeza ( 100% ) 320,000,000
Future Trunks SSJ ( trunks arc ) 480,000,000
Goku SSJ ( trunks arc ) 560,000,000
 

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Mike said:
I said his power up would pointless <small><small>(if he didn't even surpass someone he was close to before his power up)</small></small>, not his return.
His return was pointless B-)
 

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