SSJ Vegeta vs FP Semi-Cell

[Future Warrior]

Since the other thread got derailed from this topic I think the debate would be better off discussed here.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Cell wins with mid-diff at most. Whilst Trunks was surprised Vegeta was using Grade 2 straight away, I doubt SSJ Vegeta's advantage over initial 2nd form Cell was that great if Vegeta was still disappointed at Cell's power as a whole. Full Power definitely wins when taking into consideration not only was it a great enough boost Cell thought it'd be a game changer, but also has some good hax if the Taiyoken and Life Drain are used strategically.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Cell stomps.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Cell owns. Vegeta was only close to initial 2nd Form Cell.

 

[Victorious]

Is this initial SSJ Vegeta or full power SSJ Vegeta? FP SSJ wins, no doubt.

FP SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Future Trunks > FP Semi Cell.

Initial Semi Cell ~ Initial SSJ Vegeta

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Cell absolutely wrecks him. Nothing implies Vegeta is any closer to Cell at all. That's the reason he needs Grade 2.

 

[Papasmurf]

also, Trunks standing in front of Cell doesn't really count when Vegeta already confirmed the two are similar in power and therefore far superior to even an uninjured Semi if Trunks were to go Grade 2. Even if SSj Trunks were stronger, it was after Vegeta knocked the wind out of him first.

 

[Victorious]

Trunks wouldn't get in front of Semi Cell as SSJ if Semi Cell could just casually push him aside like Vegeta did Cui or Dodoria. Of all the people who bullshit in DBZ Future Trunks is not one of them.

 

[Papasmurf]

That's why there's always the option that Cell was too weak after being thrashed by Vegeta

 

[Victorious]

Cell's obviously not very weak because even SSJG2 Future Trunks could not 1 or 2 or 3 shot him.

 

[Papasmurf]

Grade 2 Trunks thrashing Cell was anime-only though. In the manga the most he showed was instantly swallowing #18.

 

[Victorious]

Grade 2 Future Trunks in the manga never hit Semi Cell?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

No. Cell used the Taiyoken before Trunks could get a hit in iirc.

 

[Papasmurf]

Trunks beating up Cell was repetitive considering Vegeta already had done that for 3 episodes anyway.

 

[Victorious]

Just looked at it. Yep.Trunks never even touches Semi Cell in the manga.

Well anime wise at the very least SSG2 Trunks cannot one shot Semi Cell, not even close. So the while the manga is kinda completely indifferent on.the whole.SSJ Trunks SSJG2 Trunks and Semi Cell scenario and placement the anime gives much more detail favoring my position.

So anime wise my position wins easily while manga wise seems to be a draw regarding post RoSaT SSJs. Either way works and can be argued for.

 

[Ultimate Cell]

I think Vegeta wins with High Difficulty.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

Eh....Trunks was surprised at Vegeta using ASSJ right off of the bat. I THINK I'll give this to Cell with Mid (MAYBE) High difficulty.