SSJ2 Majin Vegeta (Fatigued)vs Fat Buu ( Initial )

[p123]

Vegeta laughs off the power, but could Vegeta actually beat him if he didn't take a sensu bean?

 

[Ryuzaki]

Apparently, Dabura and Gohan thought that could take him on. Though the first can't sense ki, and the latter only think about it if he can bring out his anger.

I still think Vegeta could have won in that condition, though. While he was highly damaged, it doesn't look like he was that much weakened.

 

[p123]

I'm leaning towards Vegeta losing. He has to be fatigued by a pretty large margin considering he and Goku are equals and Goku filled up the other half of the Buu meter.

Even if Goku is double Gohans power, that means Goku and Vegeta are only at half power.

Gohan doesn't seem to talk about Fat Buu in a way he can easily beat him even with his full power.

If you think Gohan is talking about Ssj2 or his enraged power, it doesn't seem likely that Vegeta can win imo.

 

[p123]

This is a great battle, would like to hear more responses here.

 

[SSJ2]

No. I think he took the bean for a reason.

Although not sure if you're referring to Boo pre Dabra. If it's that Boo, I don't think weak SSJ2 Vegeta would be below SSJ2 Teen Gohan.

 

[p123]

Yes, Vegeta took the sensu bean prior to fighting Fat Buu ( Powered Up ), I'm speaking about his changes with Fat Buu ( Initial ).

Powered Up Fat Buu is a bit stronger than Goku and Majin Vegeta, but with their power combined ( And probably help from Gohan ), they could definitely beat Majin Buu.

 

[SSJ2]

Then yeah, I stand by my answer. Vegeta's power shouldn't be below Gohan's in my opinion. Kid Gohan was gravely injured by Cell when his power was lowered to 50%, Vegeta did not have damage that catastrophic.

Vegeta: 115
Kid Gohan: 100
Teen Gohan: 70
Vegeta (fatigued): 70-72
Fat Boo (initial): 66

I think that works well. Vegeta being around 60% of his power seems to fit in comparison to his damages with Kid Gohan.

 

[p123]

Why do you think Gohan should be above Majin Buu? Gohan merely lets Supreme Kai know that the situation isn't hopeless should he attain his true power, not that it would be a definitive victory.

Good point about how Gohan looked while damaged but don't forget Gohan was less than half his power IIRC.

 

[SSJ2]

Why would there be any chance if he was weaker than Boo? Gohan doesn't really seem like a cocky guy, especially considering how rusty he was in battle. I think he'd recognize his potential advantage and see that as the reason to have hope.

 

[p123]

Viz- Seriously? I admit he does have a ton of chi... But I don't know about hopeless. If I can use all my strength.


Definitely doesn't sound like Gohan is going to have a power advantage here to me. I think Gohan is in Buu's ballpark range, he can probably put up a decent fight, but I'd still think he's more likely to lose than win.

Remember, he is merely telling Supreme Kai that the situation isn't as hopeless as he thinks.

 

[SSJ2]

I see it like Gohan vs Dabra. Gohan would have the power advantage, but his rust would make him perform worse than Boo. Of course he's just reassuring Kaioshin, but he seemed to believe that he could do something.

 

[p123]

So who's more rusty? Gohan who hasn't trained much in 7 years or Buu who's been locked away in the ball for a million years?

He isn't reassuring Kaioshin's at all, he's telling him his perspective on Buu.

 

[SSJ2]

Boo never looks rusty though. He matches SSJ3 Goku after all.

Yes, and that his position is that there is still hope.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

What i make of Gohan's statement is ''i have a chance, if i can somehow (probably through rage) regain the
power i had at Cell Games''...

SSJ2 Adult Gohan- 60
SSJ2 Kid Gohan- 90
Initial Buu- 85
SSJ2 Vegeta- 100
SSJ2 Vegeta (tired)- 80

I think it's a good fight, but Getes loses.

 

[p123]

Buu must be rusty as hell, Majin Vegeta was able to land all sorts of combos on him even though Buu had a great power advantage. Also, Buu is getting smarter as time goes on. So he's definitely way more rusty than Gohan.

 

[p123]

How does he only have a chance if he's stronger? His true power should definitely be weaker than Majin Buu. And Vegeta is a hell of a lot less than 80% of his power here, he's all sorts of damaged. Are you sayin 20% of Goku's power = 50% of SSJ2 Gohan's?

Man your post is so unimpressive. Do better.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

How does he only have a chance if he's stronger? His true power should definitely be weaker than Majin Buu. And Vegeta is a hell of a lot less than 80% of his power here, he's all sorts of damaged. Are you sayin 20% of Goku's power = 50% of SSJ2 Gohan's?

Man your post is so unimpressive. Do better.

A PL of 90 doesn't guarantee victory against one of 85. Majin Vegeta, who was not far from Kid Gohan, laughed
at Initial Buu's power, which indicates a good gap between them. I had to somehow play with all those facts. I
don't know how damaged Vegeta was, maybe he was more.

 

[p123]

He doesn't seem confident like that though, his quote suggests he's weaker, period.

 

[Lightsworn]

He doesn't seem confident like that though, his quote suggests he's weaker, period.

He never states he wasn't confident in his power. He was already told he would surpass everyone if he unleahsed all of his power, so power isn't an issue. He's not confident in bringing out his hidden powers though.

 

[SSJ2]

He doesn't seem confident like that though, his quote suggests he's weaker, period.

He doesn't seem confident because he doesn't know whether or not he can use SSJ2... it's not that his power is too weak.