SSJ3 Goku (BoGs) vs Chou Gohan

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Anime scale for both. Who's stronger? I've heard Goku is stronger, but why? Can Vegeta stand up to him as well?
 

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Beerus mentions Vegeta entertain him more than Goku did and it was after he already fought Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan, Enraged Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks
 

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Jeff Styles said:
Beerus mentions Vegeta entertain him more than Goku did and it was after he already fought Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan, Enraged Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks

Beerus only fought Base Gotenks and Gohan lost the power he had in the Boo arc from lack of training.
 

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Is that quote about Goku being taking in two blows that made Vegeta like "OMG he's invencible" present on the Anime was well?
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Is that quote about Goku being taking in two blows that made Vegeta like "OMG he's invencible" present on the Anime was well?

Yeah, but that doesn't mean Goku is stronger than SS3 Gotenks/Ultimate Gohan.
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Yeah, but that doesn't mean Goku is stronger than SS3 Gotenks/Ultimate Gohan.

But makes them pretty close, considering back on Buu Arc SSJ3 Goku should be fodder even to SSJ Gotenks.
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Jeff Styles said:
Beerus mentions Vegeta entertain him more than Goku did and it was after he already fought Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan, Enraged Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks

Beerus only fought Base Gotenks and Gohan lost the power he had in the Boo arc from lack of training.

In the manga Gotenks was SSJ3 tho
 

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Animelover5487 said:
GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Is that quote about Goku being taking in two blows that made Vegeta like "OMG he's invencible" present on the Anime was well?

Yeah, but that doesn't mean Goku is stronger than SS3 Gotenks/Ultimate Gohan.

Vegeta's reaction to Goku being dealt with in two blows solidifies Goku's superiority for me. Why piss himself right then if he knew Ultimate Gohan and SS3 Gotenks were still there and stronger?
 

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Animelover5487 said:
Jeff Styles said:
Beerus mentions Vegeta entertain him more than Goku did and it was after he already fought Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan, Enraged Vegeta > SSJ3 Goku > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks

Beerus only fought Base Gotenks and Gohan lost the power he had in the Boo arc from lack of training.

Kind of odd Gohan chose to not to be at least a SSJ after witnessing Beerus stomps Good Boo and Base Gotenks, don't you think? I don't remember Gohan or anyone in BoG saying Gohan lose power from lack of training like in the Boo and FnF Arc.
 

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But makes them pretty close, considering back on Buu Arc SSJ3 Goku should be fodder even to SSJ Gotenks.

This is a statement directed at Vegeta, so to Vegeta who is at most on par with SSJ2 Goku an enemy who can two shot Super Saiyan 3 is terrifying.


In the manga Gotenks was SSJ3 tho

We aren't talking about the manga.

Vegeta's reaction to Goku being dealt with in two blows solidifies Goku's superiority for me. Why piss himself right then if he knew Ultimate Gohan and SS3 Gotenks were still there and stronger?

Gohan had became a scholar and quit his training, losing his Ultimate form so yes he is weaker than Goku now. As for Gotenks. Gotenks was not "there" when Vegeta made that statement and by the time Gotenks was formed Vegeta had a better understanding of Beerus power beyond SS3 Goku being two shot material.
 

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Gohan didn't lose his power yet until FnF and that was clearly stated.

Minute: 19~20
Vegeta: “Kakarot…The one I’ve acknowledged as the strongest Saiyan…But Kakarot, I have no intention of being content with staying Number Two forever! Someday I will surpass you! No, I’ll surpass every living being in this universe…and become the supreme Number One!”
Significance: Again, Vegeta admits Goku is the strongest Saiyan, but is not content to remain in second place. This may imply Vegeta considers Goku stronger than Gohan/Gotenks at this point, unless by “strongest Saiyan” he means “strongest pure-blooded Saiyan”. Or he just refuses to acknowledge Gohan/Gotenks.

Goku > Gohan
 

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