SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ Gotenks (Pre)

[GSM123]

Unlimited fusion time, no SSJ3 strain. Can Goku overcome the power gap betwen his half child?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Gotenks doesn't need to be much stronger than Goku, so I'd say Goku's far greater skill and array of techniques gives him the win.

 

[SSJ2]

I have it at a 1.2x gap give or take. Skill can't win that battle.

 

[Pocket-God]

Gotenks get spanked.

 

[GSM123]

I'm thinking about a 1.5x gap between Goku and Gotenks because i don't like Base Gotenks being multifold below Fat Man. Is that too much? Damn, i might even run with a common multiplier and have Gotenks >>>>>> Goku, but i doubt.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

But base Gotenks was multi-fold below Fat Boi tho.

Having SSJ Gotenks just barely stronger than Galu whilst having Base Gotenks >/>> SS2s can easily work if giving Gotenks the GT 2.5x SSJ multiplier.

Base Gotenks - 10
SSJ Gotenks - 25
SS2 Goku - 6
SS3 Goku - 24

Something like that

 

[GSM123]

I'm not sure how serious Gotenks surviving Pink Yoshi Fatso should be taken so he could be like really close to Boo, only weak enough to get beaten up.

The gap between Goku and Gotenks is pretty unknown too, so it makes hard to decide. I definitely don't think Gotenks is a 24 to Goku's 25, Goku saying Gotenks is stronger than Piccolo instantly confirming it makes me think their Kis are easy to diferenciate.

 

[Pyro]

Not regarding Super's incoherent narrative, Goku would lose this battle in the end. Gotenks is much faster, more agile, and more unpredictable than Goku can account for. Goku would inflict a heavy amount of damage, but in the end he'd run out of power and get beat down once Gotenks decides to take things seriously.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'm not sure how serious Gotenks surviving Pink Micropenis cum bucket Fatso should be taken so he could be like really close to Boo, only weak enough to get beaten up.

I was only half-serious with this part. Gotenks should still be a tier or two below Boo seeing as how Piccolo immediately calls out Gotenks as too weak to do anything but get killed when he goes to face Boo. As for Gotenks' survival, I imagine it could be down to several factors. For one, Boo's playful nature may have caused him to mess around and give Gotenks an opening to escape. Boo may have also wondered if Gotenks could get any stronger and let him live for that reason, much in the same manner as Future #17 and #18 letting Trunks live.

The gap between Goku and Gotenks is pretty unknown too, so it makes hard to decide. I definitely don't think Gotenks is a 24 to Goku's 25, Goku saying Gotenks is stronger than Piccolo instantly confirming it makes me think their Kis are easy to diferenciate.

Debatable. Piccolo never contradicts Gotenks > Goku, but he never cites it as being so apparent, only that Gotenks is stronger than Boo. You could say the gap is pretty wide because of Goku's lie suggesting SSJ Gotenks > FP Fat Boo > SS3 Goku to Piccolo, but Goku explaining his reasoning to Piccolo would've made it apparent to Big Green Goku was mincing his words, particularly with Goku saying he wasn't sure if he could kill Boo. Basically, all that mattered to Piccolo in regard to Gotenks' strength was that it was enough to beat Boo.
Even if he were to confirm Gotenks as superior to Goku, I believe such a small gap is enough to make the distinction if sensing them properly. For instance, Piccolo was unsure about Gotenks' chances against Evil Boo when the latter was formed, yet sure Gotenks stood no chance once he sensed Boo on Kami's Temple. There's also Vegeta solidly confirming SS2 Goku as stronger than CG Gohan whereas Big Green only saw it as possible, the latter suggesting the difference was minimal whilst the former showing it could easily be discerned. At least Boo Arc-wise, it seems as though the distance to the Ki can be absolutely crucial in how a character accurately judges it.

 

[GSM123]

I was only half-serious with this part. Gotenks should still be a tier or two below Boo seeing as how Piccolo immediately calls out Gotenks as too weak to do anything but get killed when he goes to face Boo. As for Gotenks' survival, I imagine it could be down to several factors. For one, Boo's playful nature may have caused him to mess around and give Gotenks an opening to escape. Boo may have also wondered if Gotenks could get any stronger and let him live for that reason, much in the same manner as Future #17 and #18 letting Trunks live.

Gotenks surviving Boo is such a double-edged sword. Him surviving implies he's quite strong, but how much? I can't remember any situations a much weaker foe survived and escaped without Solar Flare (Which Gotenks probably can't use).

The first scenario seems unlikely, as Boo did the same with Gohan. He played around and Gohan escaped, but Boo instantly blitzed him. Second one is more likely, but i think Super Boo would coment something at the Rosat.

It's quite possible Boo just throwed Gotenks to a rock and thought he died, ala Cell on Gohan. They indeed had some fight though, as Boo remembers beating him up and Gotenks admits inferiority at the Castle instead of trying to make a bad excuse about his lost.

Debatable. Piccolo never contradicts Gotenks > Goku, but he never cites it as being so apparent, only that Gotenks is stronger than Boo. You could say the gap is pretty wide because of Goku's lie suggesting SSJ Gotenks > FP Fat Boo > SS3 Goku to Piccolo, but Goku explaining his reasoning to Piccolo would've made it apparent to Big Green Goku was mincing his words, particularly with Goku saying he wasn't sure if he could kill Boo. Basically, all that mattered to Piccolo in regard to Gotenks' strength was that it was enough to beat Boo.
Even if he were to confirm Gotenks as superior to Goku, I believe such a small gap is enough to make the distinction if sensing them properly. For instance, Piccolo was unsure about Gotenks' chances against Evil Boo when the latter was formed, yet sure Gotenks stood no chance once he sensed Boo on Kami's Temple. There's also Vegeta solidly confirming SS2 Goku as stronger than CG Gohan whereas Big Green only saw it as possible, the latter suggesting the difference was minimal whilst the former showing it could easily be discerned. At least Boo Arc-wise, it seems as though the distance to the Ki can be absolutely crucial in how a character accurately judges it.

FP Kamehameha > Fat Boo > SSJ3 Goku is pretty possible IMO considering Boo seems to be taking his fight much lightier than Goku. Fat > Pure seems kind of odd though. I think one of the Daizenshuus (Probably 2) does say Pure Boo is stronger than Fat Boo, but i dunno.

Goku was far from Piccolo when he fought Boo though, so if anything this supports Gotenks' advantage being quite sizeable.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Gotenks wins this.