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[GreatSaiyaman123]

75? Kuririn made Jackie use his hands.

 

[FeatsofPower]

75? Kuririn made Jackie use his hands.

Jackie is probably 100, using 80 effort or so.

 

[Animelover5487]

Nah Jackie was wayyyy stronger than Yamcha. Kuririn can actually give Jackie a fight.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Nah Jackie was wayyyy stronger than Yamcha. Kuririn can actually give Jackie a fight.

Jackie is way stronger than Yamcha, but Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist is pretty close to Krillen's initial power.

Jackie Chun ~ Krillen (FP) > Krillen (Holding Back) >= Yamcha WFF > Yamcha

 

[Animelover5487]

Jackie is way stronger than Yamcha, but Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist is pretty close to Krillen's initial power.

Jackie Chun ~ Krillen (FP) > Krillen (Holding Back) >= Yamcha WFF > Yamcha

Idk. Jackie beating Yamcha with a wave of his hand is insane. I am not sure if Kuririn really got a power up too, he was nervous but his power level didn't really go up

 

[FeatsofPower]

Idk. Jackie beating Yamcha with a wave of his hand is insane.

I have it as a 60% gap. That’s quite large no? How much would you suggest?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Goku: 100
~ Tail: 150

Jackie: 90
~ Serious: 150

Namu: 135
Kuririn: 90
Giran: 75
Yamcha: 60
Bacterian: 50
Ranfan: 45

 

[Animelover5487]

Goku: 100
~ Tail: 150

Jackie: 90
~ Serious: 150

Namu: 135
Kuririn: 90
Giran: 75
Yamcha: 60
Bacterian: 50
Ranfan: 45

Kuririn rivals Tailless Goku

Bacterian and Ranfan are stronger than BoDB Goku. Yamcha said Bacterian had fearsome strength, and the announcer was surprised by Ranfan's stripping tactic implying that she won the prelims without her gimmick

 

[Animelover5487]

Also your gaps are too tight. Goku got at least a 3 times gain from Roshi's training. He was genuinely surprised that he could knock the prelim Fighters out by just touching them and told Kuririn to hold back to not kill them.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Kuririn rivals Tailless Goku

Bacterian and Ranfan are stronger than BoDB Goku. Yamcha said Bacterian had fearsome strength, and the announcer was surprised by Ranfan's stripping tactic implying that she won the prelims without her gimmick

Isn't 90/100 rivaling?

I'm pretty sure Yamcha would consider Goku's old strength fearsome too. He's not worried by Bacteria's presence, so I think Yamcha could beat him power-wise.

Does the announcer even watch the preliminaries? Ranfan's stripping was a last resort in case flirting didn't work anyway.

Also your gaps are too tight. Goku got at least a 3 times gain from Roshi's training. He was genuinely surprised that he could knock the prelim Fighters out by just touching them and told Kuririn to hold back to not kill them.

But I do have Goku getting 3x stronger. He goes from 50 to 150. And those prelim guys are all fodder anyway.

 

[Animelover5487]

Isn't 90/100 rivaling?

Kaioken x2 Goku and Vegeta weren't rivals, nor were Base Zarbon and Namek Vegeta.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Kaioken x2 Goku and Vegeta weren't rivals, nor were Base Zarbon and Namek Vegeta.

So what should he be then? I remember Roshi tells them to jump as high as they can and they go about the same height. Are they equals?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Like, I'm sure Zarbon could jump as high as 24k Vegeta (Kuririn even thought their Ki's were fairly close) or that Kkx2 Goku can see almost everything 18k Vegeta can. Being close in power and having a close fight were always different things.

 

[Animelover5487]

Like, I'm sure Zarbon could jump as high as 24k Vegeta (Kuririn even thought their Ki's were fairly close) or that Kkx2 Goku can see almost everything 18k Vegeta can. Being close in power and having a close fight were always different things.

Vegeta was straight up blitzing Zarbon, gloating about how he's moving in slow motion, and Kaioken Goku barely dodged an attack that Vegeta called a "warm up". Their jump would not be equal.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Vegeta was straight up blitzing Zarbon, gloating about how he's moving in slow motion, and Kaioken Goku barely dodged an attack that Vegeta called a "warm up". Their jump would not be equal.

What does jumping have to do with fighting though? I'm pretty sure high jumpers would get licked by professional fighters. That's like saying Roshi and Piccolo should be equals because they both destroyed the moon.

These kind of feats don't matter much besides telling us the characters are in the same tier. A few chapters before Goku was moving a giant boulder Roshi couldn't move. That's a much better feat than just jumping, but it still doesn't mean Goku was stronger than Roshi here.

 

[Goku9001]

It was made clear that Kuririn couldn't push the boulder as far as Goku could if I recall. Goku should be slightly stronger even though they are rivals.

I do like the 90/100 gap because it's clean but there could be some basis for it. Goku treated Chun's initial punch as no big deal whereas Kuririn had to concetrate hard to avoid it.