Super #17 (post) vs. Whiss

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Why would that matter though? Champa > SSJBx10 Goku clearly disproves it, and it's within the same continuity. That's like saying Kami wasn't Katas' son until Namek.
 

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Papasmurf said:
Why would that matter though? Champa > SSJBx10 Goku clearly disproves it, and it's within the same continuity. That's like saying Kami wasn't Katas' son until Namek.

It's not the same continuity because there are changes from it to Super
 

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The 10% line was also only in Super. The only percentage Beerus gives in the movie is using nearly 70% against SSJG Goku.
 

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HUEBR_Tapion said:
Beerus's statement about using 10% of his power against Vegeta in BOG is never retracted on FNF, and Beerus is never mentioned to be universal, as such, the powerscaling of Super 17 Post >> Everyone on FNF is still valid.
The 10% line wasn't in M14. Furthermore, Toriyama himself implied that Beerus is capable of making Universe 7 crumble:

"In the film Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, coming out in March 2013, a new god, the “God of Destruction”, appears. In this [book], Kaiō-sama and Kaiōshin-sama are described as “Gods of Creation”, but do they have the power to create things like planets?"

"Rather than Kaiōshin-sama making planets, he is able to provide the impetus for them to be born. Also, he will sometimes divide up one planet and increase the number of planets. He will even do things like create life-forms, or transplant them from another planet, but his basic job is to watch over the numerous planets. Because the number of planets is so very large, the four Kaiō-sama help him out as well. They intervene if it appears that the world’s balance will crumble, but normally, they merely act in an advisory role for new life-forms, and don’t get involved. In order to provide a balance to the constantly increasing number of planets, the God of Destruction destroys [them], but he does not act on Kaiōshin’s orders; he destroys according to his own individual judgment. Except, he is capricious, so he will destroy even an important world without a second thought, or when he finds it bothersome, let someone else act as an agent of destruction."

Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/chozenshu-1-we-asked-akira-toriyama-2013/

^ No one in GT is implied to be able to do the same thing, and Whis is more powerful than Beerus, so Whis stomps.
 
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