Super Dodonpa vs Super Kamehameha

[p123]

Which one is stronger? How strong should Super Dodonpa be?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Easily the Super KHH. Goku developed that whilst training under God and he was a prodigy.

 

[p123]

So how strong is Super Dodonpa? Stronger than Kamehameha?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Probably the Super Kamehameha. The Super Dodonpa may have been implied to be a game changer against someone capable of stomping the user, but the Bakurikimaha is basically the same with how it was made clear Goku wouldn't have survived it head on in his battle with Daimao at King's Castle, and the Super Kamehameha easily repelled Piccolo's once he started going all out with it.

 

[p123]

I'm talking about Chaozu's Super Dodonpa. That thing was pretty damn powerful itself. Do you think Chaozu and Tao get the same amp?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Taopaipai's Super Dodonpa should be far above Chaozu's, given he stated himself his version was far above any previous Dodonpa. Chaozu's should still be pretty powerful though for Roshi to be certain Kuririn would die if he took it.

 

[p123]

Yea, Chaozu doesn't get a lot of credit. Jackie and Goku are even blown away by the Super Dodonpa. I wonder just how powerful it is. Does Yamcha get a better reaction out of Kamehameha? Probably not.

Super Dodonpa seems pretty devastating.

How strong can Tao's be? Still not enough to close the gap between he and Tien. Tien probably has to use his full power there, huh?

 

[ahill1]

Roshi stated that an untrained KMHMH like Kuririn's one should be no match for that Dodonpa, right? That at least seems to loosely imply a proper well trained KMHMH could match Chaozu's super Dodonpa imo.

 

[p123]

It's possible. Dodonpa on it's own is shit. But Super Dodonpa, looks like a real ki blast. Which Kamehameha is most definitely.

So Kamehameha = Super Dodonpa?

That's possible...

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Probably, considering Ten's veins were bulging pretty prominently when negating it with the Kiai, plus no character make any later statements on Ten's power after the Taopaipai fight.

 

[p123]

Tien is stated to be "Maybe too powerful" by Krillen. They are definitely in awe of Tien's power and would have been wrecked by that Super Dodonpa.

How do you think Krillen vs Cyborg Tao looks? I think that's probably a somewhat entertaining battle. Krillen definitely is not going to look god mode like Tien did.

 

[ahill1]

I think a 22nd Budokai KMHMH having about the same amplification off of the base power the Super KMHMH from Chaozu had looks about right given Roshi's comment, which is a lousy implication, but still something.

 

[p123]

Come again?

Super Dodonpa ~ Kamehameha is what you are trying to say right?

Yes, it looks like that's the case. Great...

Here's my levels...

Chaozu 600
Krillen 625
Kamehameha 725
Super Dodonpa 800

 

[ahill1]

Yeah, that looks about right. Roshi stated that a "right off the bat", untrained KMHMH isn't enough to contend with Chaozu's Dodonpa, which at least to me implies the main takeaway here is that the KMHMH being untrained was the problem, not necessarily the KMHMH itself being too weak of a technique to contend with a Dodonpa from that caliber, with only the Kikoho being the technique appointed by Roshi to leave the KMHMH in the dust.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Super Kamehameha > Tao's Dodonwave > Chaozu's Dodonwave ~ Kamehameha > Untrained Kamehameha IMO.

 

[p123]

Agreed. Nice work gentleman. What's the amp on Tao's Super Dodonpa if I have Super Kamehameha at 1.5?

 

[ahill1]

Maybe 1.33x?

 

[p123]

Regular Kamehameha has to be 1.33x already...

Kamehameha > Wolf Fang Fist 2.0 > Wolf Fang Fist = 1.1x

 

[ahill1]

Then I don't know how you can work that out. The Super KMHMH would have to be more than 1.5x so it could fit with the Super Dodonpa from Tao and weaker chi attacks.

 

[ahill1]

Even the untrained weak ass KMHMH kid Goku learned by watching Roshi performing it should have kind of an amplification considering it could go through Pilaf's prision wall, whereas Goku's melee attacks like punches and kick couldn't do anything.