Super-Saiyan 2 Trunks (Future-Trunks Saga; Initial) vs Zamasu (Present)

[Fantastische Hure]

Super-Saiyan 2 Trunks when he fought Goku, before training with Vegeta.

The Zamasu, Goku defeated.

Who wins?

 

[Papasmurf]

Zamasu wins easily, anime-wise. Manga-wise, no way to tell until Zamasu's powa becomes more clear since all he has right now is kicking Kibito's ass atm.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Zamasu wins easily, anime-wise. Manga-wise, no way to tell until Zamasu's powa becomes more clear since all he has right now is kicking Kibito's ass atm.

In the manga Trunks is Super-Saiyan 3 Goku tier, I thought.

How well did Super-Saiyan 2 Trunks do against Goku again?

 

[Papasmurf]

In the anime SSJ2 Trunks (pre-training) seems to be a good deal weaker than SSJ2 Goku, seeing as a holding back Black defeats him constantly with ease, but was evenly matched against SSJ2 Galu. In the manga Trunks (due to Toyotaro being a fanboy ) was wank boosted to SSJ3 Goku tier.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

In the anime SSJ2 Trunks (pre-training) seems to be a good deal weaker than SSJ2 Goku, seeing as a holding back Black defeats him constantly with ease, but was evenly matched against SSJ2 Galu. In the manga Trunks (due to Toyotaro being a fanboy ) was wank boosted to SSJ3 Goku tier.

But Trunks said Goku might be higher than Goku-Black when he shows him Super-Saiyan 3. Doesn't that imply Trunks thinks Goku-Black is closer to Super-Saiyan 3 Goku.

 

[Papasmurf]

Trunks said Black was a bit stronger when he kicked his ass last time, but if Goku can fight evenly with that Black, he should be above Trunks who was easily defeated by him several times imo

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Trunks said Black was a bit stronger when he kicked his ass last time, but if Goku can fight evenly with that Black, he should be above Trunks who was easily defeated by him several times imo

IIRC, Trunks was wondering why Goku wasn't starting the fight as Super-Saiyan 3 and might have even thought why they were both not going all-out yet. To me it seemed like Trunks thought Goku-Black was in Super-Saiyan 3 Goku's league, all-though he might have just estimated his full-power by knowing that Goku-Black probably didn't ever go all-put against him.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah, he specifically stated Black was a little stronger when he defeated him last time compared to his short fight with Goku. Since the gap between SSJ2 and SSJ3 seems to be more than just that, I think he probably estimated Black's power since he always defeats him without breaking a sweat

 

[Fantastische Hure]

That makes sense.

Zamasu was some-what able to keep-up with Goku, right?! IIRC, he seemed kind-of surprised or taken by surprise that Goku was so high, so maybe that played a part in him losing so fast.

 

[Papasmurf]

True, although the way Black describes his loss from when he was still Zamasu, it seems like he was indeed inferior to Goku's strength.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah, he thought it was not right he could lose to Goku, but with a clear mind he might have done better and lasted longer. Seemed to be thinking too much at that moment.

But I'd still say he's some-what on-par with Super-Saiyan 2 Goku.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yeah I think he was good enough to hold his own against Goku for some time, but he would've lost although he got some good shots in.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah I think he was good enough to hold his own against Goku for some time, but he would've lost although he got some good shots in.

Do you think Goku had the advantage over Goku-Black as Super-Saiyan 2?

 

[Papasmurf]

I dont think so. It seems like the most debilitating hits Black received were due to the distortion trying to pull him back in, Black was evenly matched or slightly above him otherwise.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I dont think so. It seems like the most debilitating hits Black received were due to the distortion trying to pull him back in, Black was evenly matched or slightly above him otherwise.

Yeah, I think now that I remember some of the fight I think I can agree that Goku-Black had a slight advantage over Goku.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Zamasu takes this IMO.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Future Trunks high diff

 

[ahill1]

So, Black was slightly above SSJ2 Goku, while Zamasu was slightly inferior to said Goku, right? If so, then Zamasu got stronger after possessing Goku's body, then it makes sense for Trunks to have landed some good hits, awakening his 'instantaneous Zenkais', right?

 

[Animelover5487]

I personally think Zamasu was a good deal under SSJ2 Goku. If you look at the fight Zamasu is on the defense for 90% of the battle and the one time he tries to make an attack Goku easily blocks it with a standard ki blast. Zamasu went down quick, he was only holding his own because of his fighting skills.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I personally think Zamasu was a good deal under SSJ2 Goku. If you look at the fight Zamasu is on the defense for 90% of the battle and the one time he tries to make an attack Goku easily blocks it with a standard ki blast. Zamasu went down quick, he was only holding his own because of his fighting skills.

So do you think Goku is quite a bit higher than Zamasu, or just so much so that he has enough of an advantage that he can be the one on the offensive?