Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto (Boo Saga) vs Super #17 (Initial)

[Fantastische Hure]

Who wins?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Given Vegeta-Baby only surpassed SSJ Vegetto after his transformation, with Super Vegeta-Baby 2 likely being equal to SS2 S17 Arc Vegeta due to his performance being better than Super Oob's and than it being very unlikely the SSJ Goku who provided Super #17 some challenge was several times above Vegeta, I'd say SS2 Vegetto shouldn't be too far from Super #17. SS3 absolutely wrecks him, especially if you infer from the pamphlet stating Vegetto may surpass a SS4 to mean SS3 Vegetto > Initial SS4 Goku.

That is, assuming Vegetto is aware of Super #17's energy absorption. One significant attack absorbed and #17's going to be able to compete until Vegetto's stamina wains and causes his loss.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Given Vegeta-Baby only surpassed SSJ Vegetto after his transformation, with Super Vegeta-Baby 2 likely being equal to SS2 S17 Arc Vegeta due to his performance being better than Super Oob's and than it being very unlikely the SSJ Goku who provided Super #17 some challenge was several times above Vegeta, I'd say SS2 Vegetto shouldn't be too far from Super #17. SS3 absolutely wrecks him, especially if you infer from the pamphlet stating Vegetto may surpass a SS4 to mean SS3 Vegetto > Initial SS4 Goku.

That is, assuming Vegetto is aware of Super #17's energy absorption. One significant attack absorbed and #17's going to be able to compete until Vegetto's stamina wains and causes his loss.

So SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Saga) > Super #17 > SSj2 Vegetto (Boo Saga)?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Saga) > Super #17 > SSj2 Vegetto (Boo Saga)?

For initial S17, yeah, though peak Super #17 would wreck. I could even see SS2 Vegetto > Initial Super #17, given the difference between Super #17 and SS2 Vegeta didn't seem to be to the extent that #17 could easily tank his attacks.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

So SSj3 Vegetto (Boo Saga) > Super #17 > SSj2 Vegetto (Boo Saga)?

For initial S17, yeah, though peak Super #17 would wreck. I could even see SS2 Vegetto > Initial Super #17, given the difference between Super #17 and SS2 Vegeta didn't seem to be to the extent that #17 could easily tank his attacks.

Peak #17 absorbed a 10x KHH from SSj4 Goku, so that's obvious enough I think.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Good thread.

 

[Pyro]

Post-10x KHH Super 17 would probably wreck SSJ3 Vegetto, but his original state wouldn't stand a chance.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Good thread.

 

[SSJ2]

Vegetto will stomp. Wasn't SSJ Goku a good match for initial 17?

 

[Six Trails]

Vegetto will stomp. Wasn't SSJ Goku a good match for initial 17?

#17 was a good deal stronger. The fight was super short but basically #17 pretends to be phased by one of Goku's punches then lays a beatdown on him and knocks him into base. After that Goku transforms again and starts launching Ki blasts and a Kamehameha.

 

[SSJ2]

Wasn't Galu above SSJ2 Vegeta tho. Hm, I actually don't know about this fight now that I think about it.

 

[Six Trails]

Maybe but Vegeta didn't do much to 17 either.

 

[SSJ2]

Either way, S17 initial is above SBV2, so I'm not sure. I'd still give it to Vegetto I think.

 

[Papasmurf]

17 was similar enough to Galu in power that he got knocked halfway across the Earth, no? I doubt his advantage was very big even if he wasn't going all out. Vegetto will stomp if he has knowledge imo.

 

[SSJ3 Gothic]

Vegetto has to know about 17's absorption in order to pull of the victory here, and even then I'm not so sure he does the right thing. Goku, in both his fight against 19 and against Super 17, just kept on Spamming ki attacks even though he is fully aware of the androids ability to absorb energy. If Galu's personality comes out here, he loses. If it's Vegeta, I think he fights smarter and Vegetto pulls off a win with high-diff.

 

[Pocket-God]

Super 17 wins, Super 17 always wins, except when he wants to lose/

How does Initial Super 17 compare to Oozaru Bebi?

 

[SSJ2]

Way weaker. SSJ Goku was maybe >= SSJ2 Vegeta, who was likely equal to SBV2, and he was decently matched with 17. However at the end of the fight, 17 got serious and started destroying Goku, reverting him to base. Goku was able to turn Super Saiyan right away after reverting, and even fired a full power blast, so I assume 17 wasn't even all that much stronger than him. He only needs to be strong enough to stomp SSJ Goku, which imo doesn't even come close to Oozaru Baby level.

 

[Pocket-God]

If Oozaru Bebi was 100, what number would you give Initial Super 17 then?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Wasn't Oozaru Bebi fighting on-par with Super-Saiyan 4 Goku? He'd have no chance in hell based on that.

 

[SSJ2]

Idk.

SBV2: 100
SSJ2 Vegeta: 100
SSJ Goku: 125-150
Initial S17: 150-200