Super-Saiyan Goku (Namek) vs King Cold (Anime)

[Fantastische Hure]

Wasn't King Cold said to be stronger than Freeza in the anime? Anyway...

Who wins?

 

[Papasmurf]

King Cold isn't allowed in the anime for longer than 2 episodes so he loses.

 

[Pyro]

I don't think it was specified how much stronger Cold was. He'd probably beat Goku going by Freeza's ridiculously close performance.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Goku IMO.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Does anyone have the actual quote? 2 2 2

 

[Papasmurf]

It's more or less just saying Cold has a ki even bigger than Freeza's, although Freeza was suppressed so a Freeza fanboy could just as well say Cold was just suppressing himself less than his son

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Could be, but I think the anime's intention was for King Cold to be stronger than Freeza.

 

[Papasmurf]

True. They seemingly forgot about that intention when he went down in an even more pathetic way than the manga though... 2

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Not like Freeza did any better.

Even-though I guess going by anime logic, Goku'd still win. They wanted Super-Saiyans to be in a league of their own.

 

[Papasmurf]

The anime pretty much started that whole "I can be as strong as I want" thing when Future Gohan did way better against the future androids than Trunks did despite being allegedly slightly weaker, and all those shitty Goku/Vegeta wank fillers in the Boo arc, so probably. No logic exists in Toei World.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

That was a weird thing, but at that time the anime had the original work/manga to work with, so they had their interpretation but also had to put what was in the manga in the anime. At the end a lot of stuff was contradicted.

 

[Papasmurf]

Pretty much. Goku says he can't do anything against Super Boo just the episode after he KO'd an identical copy of Ultimate Gohan because the statements abide by manga-logic when Toei is too lazy to make their own. 2

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Made Goku look stupid and like an asshole.

 

[Papasmurf]

Remember how Gohan couldn't even defeat 3rd form Freeza while at full power? And then after giving his ki to Piccolo he gets Toei fapped to the level where he can pummel around skinny 4th form Freeza (who easily raped Vegeta)?

2 I can be as strong as I want!

 

[Fantastische Hure]

To be fair, they could have made an excuse like Rage-Boost and his Ki was still rising, even-though he gave most of that to Piccolo.

 

[Papasmurf]

Well, Gohan was rage boosted from watching Piccolo get tortured against 3rd form Freeza too, and he got no zenkai afterwards. Not the worst case of Toei logic, but still illogical.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The worst cases completely try to over-ride the manga.

 

[Papasmurf]

One of the worst ones outside of the Boo arc are probably 1 arm Tenshinhan keeping up with Nappa for a minute, or the time Kuririn headbutted 1st form Cell and actually stunned him.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

One of the worst ones outside of the Boo arc are probably 1 arm Tenshinhan keeping up with Nappa for a minute, or the time Kuririn headbutted 1st form Cell and actually stunned him.

Whilst on the subject of humans getting haxed, I like Yamcha defeating Olibu and being called the hope of the universe if Goku and Vegeta die.

 

[Papasmurf]

Yamcha > Tenshinhan confirmed. Tenshinhan was just left to be forgotten in the smoldering pile of useless no-faces after his death while Yamcha kicked SSJ tier guys' asses in the other world