Super Tier List (Anime)

[GSM123]

Mastered UI Goku
Jiren (Full Power)
Final UI Omen Goku
Beerus

Hakaishin Toppo
Kaio-Ken x20 SSJB Goku (Post Kefla)/SSJBE Vegeta

SSJ2 Kefla
UI Omen Goku
SSJ Kefla

Merged Zamasu (Full Power)
Vegetto Blue

Hit
Aniraza
SSJB Goku, Vegeta (ToP)/Toppo/Golden Freeza
Gohan (ToP)/#17
SSJB Goku (Beyond Limits)
Merged Zamasu (Initial)
SSJG Goku (ToP)/Dyspo
SSJ Rosé Goku Black (Full Power)
Kaio-Ken x10 SSJB Goku (U6)
SSJB Vegeta (Post Rosat)
SSJ Rosé Goku Black/SSJ2 Trunks (Godly Wrath)
SSJB Goku, Vegeta (U6)/Hit
Golden Freeza (FnF)
Goku Black (Full Power)
SSJB Goku, Vegeta (FnF)
SSJ2 Trunks (Post training)

SSJ3 Goku/Goku Black (Initial)
Present Zamasu
SSJ2 Goku
SSJ2 Trunks
Magetta
SSJ Goku, Vegeta (U6)
SSJ Cabba
Frost (Final Form)
Piccolo (U6)

Frost (Assault Form)
Goku, Vegeta (U6/Early Black)/Cabba
Frost (First Form)
Goku, Vegeta, Freeza (FnF)/Botamo
SSJ Goku (SSJG absorbed)
SSJG Goku (BoGs)
Beerus (“10%”)
SSJ2 Vegeta (BoGs)
Hypothetical SSJ3 Vegetto (BoGs)

SSJ3 Goku (BoGs)
Ultimate Gohan
SSJ3 Gotenks

SSJ Gohan (FnF)
Ginyu-Tagoma
Tagoma/Gohan (FnF)
Piccolo

Kuririn
Roshi
Tenshithands

Some people are clearly missing, but I don’t think I can estimate the missing people without cracking up the numbers first. Thots?

 

[Animelover5487]

#17 and Gohan aren't in the same tier as Blue Goku/Vegeta, they failed to do any damage to Base Toppo and 17 was struggling to even hold him off before Golden Freeza showed up.

SSJ2 Trunks was much weaker than Goku in the anime. Goku was even with a Black that Trunks said was only slightly weaker than when he stomped him in the future. Same deal with Present Zamasu. Zamasu was on the defense the whole fight and was taken down relatively quick.

I doubt any of the U6 fighters outside of Hit are stronger than BoGs SSJG Goku. No way would Beerus care about fighting Goku if the likes of Base Cabba and Botamo were stronger. Beerus also implied that Present Zamasu was weaker than BoG Goku ("It is true Zamasu is a Kaioshin in training but for someone who fought me he isn't much for Goku to handle").

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I doubt any of the U6 fighters outside of Hit are stronger than BoGs SSJG Goku. No way would Beerus care about fighting Goku if the likes of Base Cabba and Botamo were stronger. Beerus also implied that Present Zamasu was weaker than BoG Goku ("It is true Zamasu is a Kaioshin in training but for someone who fought me he isn't much for Goku to handle").

That depends purely with how you determine Goku's feat at the end of the fight, since either it was a temporary power boost or Base Goku (post-God) > SSG Goku (vs. Beerus) outright. You also have Beerus being excited about fighting a post-U6 Base Goku, which would be somewhat out of place if he was leagues weaker than a Goku Beerus already beat. It's also worth noting that Beerus was interested more so in Goku's ability to get far stronger rather than his pure power, given he was still an ant to Beerus' true strength.

 

[Animelover5487]

I doubt any of the U6 fighters outside of Hit are stronger than BoGs SSJG Goku. No way would Beerus care about fighting Goku if the likes of Base Cabba and Botamo were stronger. Beerus also implied that Present Zamasu was weaker than BoG Goku ("It is true Zamasu is a Kaioshin in training but for someone who fought me he isn't much for Goku to handle").

That depends purely with how you determine Goku's feat at the end of the fight, since either it was a temporary power boost or Base Goku (post-God) > SSG Goku (vs. Beerus) outright. You also have Beerus being excited about fighting a post-U6 Base Goku, which would be somewhat out of place if he was leagues weaker than a Goku Beerus already beat. It's also worth noting that Beerus was interested more so in Goku's ability to get far stronger rather than his pure power, given he was still an ant to Beerus' true strength.

Whis said that Beerus was just bored since he hadn't fought anyone in a while, when Beerus fought Goku in BoG he was specifically looking for a SSJG that would give his suppressed state a challenge.

It is also probable to treat the arcs remaking the movies as retcons from back when Toriyama had the 6/10/15 scale in his head, as AT even said at one point that Goku wouldn't use the lower SSJ forms anymore until he decided to bring them back in the U6 arc.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It is also probable to treat the arcs remaking the movies as retcons from back when Toriyama had the 6/10/15 scale in his head, as AT even said at one point that Goku wouldn't use the lower SSJ forms anymore until he decided to bring them back in the U6 arc.

The very next arc had Whis stating Vegeta and Goku's current power compared to Beerus was like the base of a tower compared to its top though.

 

[Animelover5487]

It is also probable to treat the arcs remaking the movies as retcons from back when Toriyama had the 6/10/15 scale in his head, as AT even said at one point that Goku wouldn't use the lower SSJ forms anymore until he decided to bring them back in the U6 arc.

The very next arc had Whis stating Vegeta and Goku's current power compared to Beerus was like the base of a tower compared to its top though.

Considering Vegeta basically one-shotted Cui at a 1.33x difference, a 6 vs 10 power gap could potentially be interrupted like that.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I wouldn't argue against that in principle, though it's pretty evident that those involved in Super had the idea of Goku still being far below Beerus prior to the later arcs. The first time we have any implication of Goku reaching Beerus' true strength was with his Kaioken stacked on top of SSB in the U6 Arc with the statement of FnF Goku and Vegeta being able to match Beerus with teamwork being entirely omitted from the anime.

 

[SIAD]

I wouldn't argue against that in principle, though it's pretty evident that those involved in Super had the idea of Goku still being far below Beerus prior to the later arcs. The first time we have any implication of Goku reaching Beerus' true strength was with his Kaioken stacked on top of SSB in the U6 Arc with the statement of FnF Goku and Vegeta being able to match Beerus with teamwork being entirely omitted from the anime.

The theory that Goku Base (Post God)> Goku SSJG (Vs Beerus) is interesting. However, then Goku had SSJ levels above his Base and still, Goku knew that Beerus was superior to him.

That means that after the combat that Goku and Beerus had, Goku deduced that Beerus (Vs Goku SSJG), did not fight even with 1% of his power.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

remind me to lookma thtis later

 

[SIAD]

remind me to lookma thtis later

Yes, please participate.

 

[SIAD]

remind me to lookma thtis later

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[GSM123]

remind me to lookma thtis later

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