Teen Gohan vs CG Goku

[Power Level Guy]

This gap is larger than we originally thought.

Teen Gohan expects to be able to defeat Goku and Vegeta after they already told Gohan they had both gotten a lot stronger.

Teen Gohan > Expected Goku/Vegeta > CG Goku

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Why wouldn’t this fit on a 1.33x gap?

 

[Hector]

Cell Games SSJ Goku- 9
Perfect Cell (Goku)- 10
Cell Games SSJ Gohan- 12

In my books, Teen Gohan is as strong as his Cell Games self except his SSJ2 form, so...

Teen SSJ Gohan- 12
Expected SSJ Goku- 11

 

[Power Level Guy]

Why wouldn’t this fit on a 1.33x gap?

Show me.

 

[SSJ2]

This is an interesting angle I hadn't thought about. I suppose though you can make the argument that a mere 1.1x increase would be treated as being much stronger.

 

[Power Level Guy]

This is an interesting angle I hadn't thought about. I suppose though you can make the argument that a mere 1.1x increase would be treated as being much stronger.

Yeah, honestly Gohan being 1.1x Goku probably makes everything work just fine. This is a tough area because Gohan's confidence is gone like in two seconds.

 

[Dagon]

The baseline is more so being stronger than expected Vegeta because Chi-Chi says between Gohan and Goku the first and second place prizes would be 15 million zenni. So Gohan should at least be in second place going by expectations.

 

[Power Level Guy]

The baseline is more so being stronger than expected Vegeta because Chi-Chi says between Gohan and Goku the first and second place prizes would be 15 million zenni. So Gohan should at least be in second place going by expectations.

Hmm. And how strong should Expected Vegeta be? He claims to be able to win the tournament, right?

 

[Dagon]

Hmm. And how strong should Expected Vegeta be? He claims to be able to win the tournament, right?

At least within a competitive distance to Cell Games Gohan since he questioned which of them was stronger since Gohan stopped training while he had been training.

 

[Kyo]

I hate the idea of Kid Gohan being like double CG Goku is the thing. Oh well.

 

[Power Level Guy]

At least within a competitive distance to Cell Games Gohan since he questioned which of them was stronger since Gohan stopped training while he had been training.

So Expected Vegeta is his actual power then? So it's more about Gohan not really knowing his own strength more than anything?

 

[Power Level Guy]

I hate the idea of Kid Gohan being like double CG Goku is the thing. Oh well.

I don't think it has to be.

What's making you think that? Expected Goku? It might be Gohan is overestimated himself here.

 

[Kyo]

Well I don’t even think it’s implied that Gohan thinks he’ll win, he says he’s not sure. But it’s not like he thinks he’ll lose either.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Well I don’t even think it’s implied that Gohan thinks he’ll win, he says he’s not sure. But it’s not like he thinks he’ll lose either.

Well he says he'd like to win. I think Vegeta and Gohan both agree right after Vegeta's statement that...

Kid Gohan > Vegeta > Teen Gohan

And they are talking about Super Saiyan, without Super Saiyan 2 included.

I think Gohan's power is ambiguous here and he's just saying I want to get back in shape.

 

[Dagon]

So Expected Vegeta is his actual power then? So it's more about Gohan not really knowing his own strength more than anything?

Thinking about it again, assuming Vegeta kept the same gap against Goku as they had at the Cell Games, a safe bet is Cell Games Gohan at the midpoint between the two.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Thinking about it again, assuming Vegeta kept the same gap against Goku as they had at the Cell Games, a safe bet is Cell Games Gohan at the midpoint between the two.

I’m not sure what you mean can you show me numerically

 

[Dagon]

I’m not sure what you mean can you show me numerically

Basically a safe bet is the more or less the average between Babidi Saga Vegeta and Babidi saga Goku.

Babidi saga Vegeta: 75
Cell Games Gohan: 86-88
Babidi saga Goku: 100