The Gap Between Full Powered Cell and SSjin Goku

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I've seen a lot of power levels where the gap between these two is insane. Like 2x and even greater than that! Why? Cell considered Goku as a great challenger to test his new power yet most of you PL purists put Goku around Cell's 40% or below than that. Does that make sense to you? :wtf
 

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Cell would have stomped him either-way, whether it's multi-fold or not, but Goku's reaction to Cell's power-up shows that Goku is miles away from Cell.
 

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That's not the point, Cell being multifold stronger than Goku doesn't make any sense. Cell consider the rest of Z fighters as trash and disappointing but not Goku, that tells you how Cell value Goku and it doesn't make sense if Cell was 2x stronger or greater than that.
 

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the same as the gap between my Cheerful and depressed self
 

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Fearless Super said:
That's not the point, Cell being multifold stronger than Goku doesn't make any sense. Cell consider the rest of Z fighters as trash and disappointing but not Goku, that tells you how Cell value Goku and it doesn't make sense if Cell was 2x stronger or greater than that.
Yes, it does. We know Goku isn't 2x stronger than Vegeta, but Cell still rather wants to fight Goku than Vegeta, who you said Cell thought was trash. So yeah Cell can be much, much higher.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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That's not the point, Cell being multifold stronger than Goku doesn't make any sense. Cell consider the rest of Z fighters as trash and disappointing but not Goku, that tells you how Cell value Goku and it doesn't make sense if Cell was 2x stronger or greater than that.
Yes, it does. We know Goku isn't 2x stronger than Vegeta, but Cell still rather wants to fight Goku than Vegeta, who you said Cell thought was trash. So yeah Cell can be much, much higher.

Goku is not 2x stronger than Vegeta but he is like 1.5x stronger and perhaps even greater than that and we all know that 1.5x is a huge gap enough to be consider different league. It's like BoG numbers where Whis is 15, Beerus is 10 and Goku 6 but Whis should be interested fighting Beerus since he's the closest enough to put a fight against Whis than Goku will ever do. Then again, to be consider a fun opponent, you need to be in the same level or at least close enough to use his 70% of power.
 

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Vegeta said Goku would lose no matter what, and Cell himself said that even if Goku ate a senzu and fought him while he was weakened, he would have basically no chance of winning. Mind you, this is Suppressed Cell who was nowhere near his full power. In other words, Cell being far far above Goku isn't farfetched.

It also makes sense because everyone thought Cell's power was limitless when he used his Full-Power against Gohan, despite the half-saiyan being considerably above Goku. The saiyan wasn't even a factor in anyone's mind.
 

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Fearless Super said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Super said:
That's not the point, Cell being multifold stronger than Goku doesn't make any sense. Cell consider the rest of Z fighters as trash and disappointing but not Goku, that tells you how Cell value Goku and it doesn't make sense if Cell was 2x stronger or greater than that.
Yes, it does. We know Goku isn't 2x stronger than Vegeta, but Cell still rather wants to fight Goku than Vegeta, who you said Cell thought was trash. So yeah Cell can be much, much higher.

Goku is not 2x stronger than Vegeta but he is like 1.5x stronger and perhaps even greater than that and we all know that 1.5x is a huge gap enough to be consider different league. It's like BoG numbers where Whis is 15, Beerus is 10 and Goku 6 but Whis should be interested fighting Beerus since he's the closest enough to put a fight against Whis than Goku will ever do. Then again, to be consider a fun opponent, you need to be in the same level or at least close enough to use his 70% of power.
And where is that rule stated? I mean the last sentence. Just because you make up rules about some 70%, doesn't mean it's real. Goku was just thought to be Cell's greatest challenge out of all them. No-one else was high enough to him, so he just went with the one with the highest-power. There's also his Red-Ribbon-Army vendetta, so it doesn't really matter. Freeza considered Nail strong, yet you know how many times higher he was than him.
 

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I know Cell is really strong but Cell wouldn't value Goku that much and consider him as a fun opponent if Goku wasn't even 50% of his power. It's like 2nd form Freeza if he consider Vegeta who was like below 50% of his power and consider him as a fun opponent which is absolutely not.
 

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In Cell's mind, Goku was the strongest guy in that bunch. Just because Goku was closer than everybody else doesn't mean he was actually anywhere near the android's full power.
 

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Fearless Super said:
I know Cell is really strong but Cell wouldn't value Goku that much and consider him as a fun opponent if Goku wasn't even 50% of his power. It's like 2nd form Freeza if he consider Vegeta who was like below 50% of his power and consider him as a fun opponent which is absolutely not.
That's because Freeza transformed in-order to make him suffer, not to have a fun fight with him.

Freeza's true form was fighting Goku and considered him strong, and you know that Freeza was way more than only 2x Goku's power.
 

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In Cell's mind, Goku was the strongest guy in that bunch. Just because Goku was closer than everybody else doesn't mean he was actually anywhere near the android's full power.
you get it, my breh
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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Yes, it does. We know Goku isn't 2x stronger than Vegeta, but Cell still rather wants to fight Goku than Vegeta, who you said Cell thought was trash. So yeah Cell can be much, much higher.

Goku is not 2x stronger than Vegeta but he is like 1.5x stronger and perhaps even greater than that and we all know that 1.5x is a huge gap enough to be consider different league. It's like BoG numbers where Whis is 15, Beerus is 10 and Goku 6 but Whis should be interested fighting Beerus since he's the closest enough to put a fight against Whis than Goku will ever do. Then again, to be consider a fun opponent, you need to be in the same level or at least close enough to use his 70% of power.
And where is that rule stated? I mean the last sentence. Just because you make up rules about some 70%, doesn't mean it's real. Goku was just thought to be Cell's greatest challenge out of all them. No-one else was high enough to him, so he just went with the one with the highest-power. There's also his Red-Ribbon-Army vendetta, so it doesn't really matter. Freeza considered Nail strong, yet you know how many times higher he was than him.
Then again, what I'm saying was how come Goku will be value as a fun opponent if he was like 30% of Cell's power? That doesn't make sense at all, to be consider as a fun opponent, you need to pass 50% of his power to be consider as worthy of oppoenent otherwise it's a joke.

And as for Freeza/Nail comparison, It's just Freeza being surprised to see a Namekian strong enough to rival the members of Ginyu Force who are perhaps top 10 stronger fighters at that time.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Super said:
I know Cell is really strong but Cell wouldn't value Goku that much and consider him as a fun opponent if Goku wasn't even 50% of his power. It's like 2nd form Freeza if he consider Vegeta who was like below 50% of his power and consider him as a fun opponent which is absolutely not.
That's because Freeza transformed in-order to make him suffer, not to have a fun fight with him.

Freeza's true form was fighting Goku and considered him strong, and you know that Freeza was way more than only 2x Goku's power.

Yeah that kind of gap is absolutely stomp and humiliation but for Cell he consider Goku as a noteworthy challenger. Goku can't be a note worthy opponent if he was weaker than Cell's 50% power lol.
 

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Fearless Super said:
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Goku is not 2x stronger than Vegeta but he is like 1.5x stronger and perhaps even greater than that and we all know that 1.5x is a huge gap enough to be consider different league. It's like BoG numbers where Whis is 15, Beerus is 10 and Goku 6 but Whis should be interested fighting Beerus since he's the closest enough to put a fight against Whis than Goku will ever do. Then again, to be consider a fun opponent, you need to be in the same level or at least close enough to use his 70% of power.
And where is that rule stated? I mean the last sentence. Just because you make up rules about some 70%, doesn't mean it's real. Goku was just thought to be Cell's greatest challenge out of all them. No-one else was high enough to him, so he just went with the one with the highest-power. There's also his Red-Ribbon-Army vendetta, so it doesn't really matter. Freeza considered Nail strong, yet you know how many times higher he was than him.
Then again, what I'm saying was how come Goku will be value as a fun opponent if he was like 30% of Cell's power? That doesn't make sense at all, to be consider as a fun opponent, you need to pass 50% of his power to be consider as worthy of oppoenent otherwise it's a joke.

And as for Freeza/Nail comparison, It's just Freeza being surprised to see a Namekian strong enough to rival the members of Ginyu Force who are perhaps top 10 stronger fighters at that time.
Goku vs True Form Freeza. Freeza being many, many times higher than Goku but still considering him a good strong opponent. Need I go on? How many excuses can you come-up with? It doesn't matter if Cell is several-folds higher than Goku, because he thought Goku was strongest that could stand-up to him, so he had no other choice to test-out his new power anyway and remember he had Goku's cells too.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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And where is that rule stated? I mean the last sentence. Just because you make up rules about some 70%, doesn't mean it's real. Goku was just thought to be Cell's greatest challenge out of all them. No-one else was high enough to him, so he just went with the one with the highest-power. There's also his Red-Ribbon-Army vendetta, so it doesn't really matter. Freeza considered Nail strong, yet you know how many times higher he was than him.
Then again, what I'm saying was how come Goku will be value as a fun opponent if he was like 30% of Cell's power? That doesn't make sense at all, to be consider as a fun opponent, you need to pass 50% of his power to be consider as worthy of oppoenent otherwise it's a joke.

And as for Freeza/Nail comparison, It's just Freeza being surprised to see a Namekian strong enough to rival the members of Ginyu Force who are perhaps top 10 stronger fighters at that time.
Goku vs True Form Freeza. Freeza being many, many times higher than Goku but still considering him a good strong opponent. Need I go on? How many excuses can you come-up with? It doesn't matter if Cell is several-folds higher than Goku, because he thought Goku was strongest that could stand-up to him, so he had no other choice to test-out his new power anyway and remember he had Goku's cells too.
Damn, this is right.
 

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What are you trying to argue, anyway? We know for a fact Goku is no match for Cell either way, so no matter how you cut it, Goku isn't a noteworthy opponent for Cell's full power. He could barely keep up with Suppressed Cell as it was, with Cell managing to win every exchange. So your argument is pointless because we know Cell was merely toying around and suppressing his full power at that point.

Cell himself says Goku had basically no chance of winning against him even if he was tired & if Goku ate a senzu, which proves even Suppressed Cell is considerably above Goku.
 

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Fearless Super said:
Fantastische Hure said:
Fearless Super said:
Then again, what I'm saying was how come Goku will be value as a fun opponent if he was like 30% of Cell's power? That doesn't make sense at all, to be consider as a fun opponent, you need to pass 50% of his power to be consider as worthy of oppoenent otherwise it's a joke.

And as for Freeza/Nail comparison, It's just Freeza being surprised to see a Namekian strong enough to rival the members of Ginyu Force who are perhaps top 10 stronger fighters at that time.
Goku vs True Form Freeza. Freeza being many, many times higher than Goku but still considering him a good strong opponent. Need I go on? How many excuses can you come-up with? It doesn't matter if Cell is several-folds higher than Goku, because he thought Goku was strongest that could stand-up to him, so he had no other choice to test-out his new power anyway and remember he had Goku's cells too.
Damn, this is right.
I damn sure hope you're serious, because if not...
I will cry.
 
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