The Gap between Ssj Goku and 100% Namek Freiza

[Ultimate Cell]

Where do u place the gap between them. Do u use the official 150 and 120 number or do u use different numbers? Just Curious.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

150/140 before Freeza's stamina started to running out.
150/120 after Freeza is no match against Goku.

 

[Zippy]

No i use 150/135

 

[withheldforprivacy]

If one wants to use 150/120 gap, the new material gives good evidence. SSJ God Goku
needed some time to get used to the form and access all the power, that could be the
case with SSJ as well.

 

[Zippy]

If one wants to use 150/120 gap, the new material gives good evidence. SSJ God Goku
needed some time to get used to the form and access all the power, that could be the
case with SSJ as well.

But theres actual signs and showcasings of him not being able to handle it properly. Whereas goku seemed like he could control himself fine as an ssj atleast physically so. It probably had to do with the godly ki or power in the other case

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Well, he couldn't one shot 50% Freeza.

 

[ahill1]

Goku SSJ 150,000,000
Freeza 100% 140,000,000

I don't see the fight suggesting a 80% gap at all (which is likely bigger than the gap 24k Vegeta had on Dodoria), so I generally go with a 93% gap, since the fight was even closer than 24k Vegeta vs handsome Zarbon.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Well, he couldn't one shot 50% Freeza.

An enraged 50% Freeza failed to one shot an exhausted base Goku. One shotting your opponent is simply inconsistent.

As for the topic, I have a 140/150 gap between Freeza and Goku, although I don't follow the 150 million number for SSj Goku anyways.

 

[SSJ2]

I usually have Goku well beyond 150,000,000. Usually around double or slightly less. My last list had:

SSJ Goku: 260,000,000
Freeza: 247,500,000

So a 1.05x gap. Tight rivals, but Goku gains an advantage over time.

 

[Void]

If we're just using 150,000,000 for Goku then I always had Freeza around 140,000,000

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

I have them just about equal, maybe a very slight advantage to Goku. It felt like Frieza lost because he couldn't keep his max power, not because his max power was too low.

 

[freezamite]

Well, he couldn't one shot 50% Freeza.

An enraged 50% Freeza failed to one shot an exhausted base Goku. One shotting your opponent is simply inconsistent.

As for the topic, I have a 140/150 gap between Freeza and Goku, although I don't follow the 150 million number for SSj Goku anyways.

That enraged 50% Freezer didn't want to one shot Goku. It's obvious that he was expectant to see what Goku would try next, but if he wanted to one shot Goku, he would've done it (he already demonstrated he was able to do so against a stronger Goku than the one you speak of).

Regarding the topic, I have a question to those saying 140 for 100% Freezer. How much strength would he have if he hadn't been injured by the Genkidama according to you?

 

[SSJ2]

140 as well. He had had his power left in his reserves, but his stamina probably got slightly worse in 100% after the Genki Dama.

 

[freezamite]

140 as well. He had had his power left in his reserves, but his stamina probably got slightly worse in 100% after the Genki Dama.

I've read that from a lot of posters and I still can't understand on what's based. I mean, is there even a single character in the whole series that could manage his power in the way you say (to put all his strength in the "reserve" and not be affected by the injuries he receives)?
Why would Freezer have that unheard ability and Cell lack it (Goku gave him a senzu to recover his lost strength, and he was less damaged than Freezer)?

 

[SSJ2]

Cell did have it. He told Goku to take a senzu to get his power back and that would make the fight "a little more interesting". Based on how warn out Cell was when he told this to Goku, he would be well below FP SSJ Goku, yet he was still going to win easily if Goku got back to full power. He still had all of his power in his reserves that he could bring out in an instance.

If Freeza was not at full power, why would he be announcing each passing 5% that he was at when he was powering up? Would he really do mental math on the spot and know he was at 85% of his 30% power? Seems illogical.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Clear advantage for Goku. He was always going to be the winner. Stamina-loss or not.

90-92/100

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Clear advantage for Goku. He was always going to be the winner. Stamina-loss or not.

90-92/100

If it was a 2x gap then Freeza would've fought evenly with Goku and tanked his Kamehameha.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Clear advantage for Goku. He was always going to be the winner. Stamina-loss or not.

90-92/100

If it was a 2x gap then Freeza would've fought evenly with Goku and tanked his Kamehameha.

What is that a reference too again? I forgot.

Also sorry I couldn't rep you up recently. I have to wait again.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Clear advantage for Goku. He was always going to be the winner. Stamina-loss or not.

90-92/100

If it was a 2x gap then Freeza would've fought evenly with Goku and tanked his Kamehameha.

What is that a reference too again? I forgot.

Also sorry I couldn't rep you up recently. I have to wait again.

It's a reference to Nappa being 4,000 according to the Daizenshuu.

And I'll rep you so you're back on top.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

If it was a 2x gap then Freeza would've fought evenly with Goku and tanked his Kamehameha.

What is that a reference too again? I forgot.

Also sorry I couldn't rep you up recently. I have to wait again.

It's a reference to Nappa being 4,000 according to the Daizenshuu.

And I'll rep you so you're back on top.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Haven't been here for some-time. According to Kabroom that'd be right, yeah.

Also I said that because you repped me up recently, but I couldn't do that because of the limit thing, so I let you know. I wasn't just being an asshole.