The power of the Genkidama how many times stronger than Goku SSJB Kaioken x20 in the ToP Anime?

[SIAD]

Will 1.5x be ok?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I have it 10x.

Keep in mind Goku adapted multiple times against Caulifla and Kefla (who was also adapting vs Goku) before his KKx20 level could reach the power of the Genki-Dama. 2x might be the minimum.

 

[SIAD]

I have it 10x.

Keep in mind Goku adapted multiple times against Caulifla and Kefla (who was also adapting vs Goku) before his KKx20 level could reach the power of the Genki-Dama. 2x might be the minimum.

I would love to have Goku get 10x stronger just by fighting Saiyans.
However in the fights against the U3 Warriors, Goku seems to be on the same level as Vegeta in equal ways and these 2 don't seem to be in a completely different league than Golden Frieza, Ultimate Gohan and Android #17.
It just seems like Goku and Vegeta got stronger at the start of Chapter 122.

It could be argued that Goku was still very damaged after the fight against Kefla, even in Chapter 121 when they faced Agnilasa and only in Chapter 122 did Goku fully recover. However, this does not seem to be the case, since in his fight against U3, Goku only seems to have very superficial injuries and that he still had them in Chapter 122.

I would say that in Goku's fight against the Saiyans he managed to match Vegeta in equal ways. After they defeated Agnilasa, Goku got a huge power boost, later Vegeta matches Goku in equal ways, as he faced off against Jiren in DBS Chapter 122.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I would love to have Goku get 10x stronger just by fighting Saiyans.
However in the fights against the U3 Warriors, Goku seems to be on the same level as Vegeta in equal ways and these 2 don't seem to be in a completely different league than Golden Frieza, Ultimate Gohan and Android #17.
It just seems like Goku and Vegeta got stronger at the start of Chapter 122.

It could be argued that Goku was still very damaged after the fight against Kefla, even in Chapter 121 when they faced Agnilasa and only in Chapter 122 did Goku fully recover. However, this does not seem to be the case, since in his fight against U3, Goku only seems to have very superficial injuries and that he still had them in Chapter 122.

I would say that in Goku's fight against the Saiyans he managed to match Vegeta in equal ways. After they defeated Agnilasa, Goku got a huge power boost, later Vegeta matches Goku in equal ways, as he faced off against Jiren in DBS Chapter 122.

Goku did not attempt to use Kaio-Ken against Anilaza, so I think he was saving his strength for the next episode to fight Jiren.

I think Goku greatly improved fighting the Saiyans, and got even stronger as he rested between episodes 116 and 122. Vegeta was only somewhat above Goku in the beginning of the ToP, but I think he caught up either when he almost attained UI fighting Jiren or when powering up and unlocking SSJBE in the next episodes.

 

[SIAD]

Goku did not attempt to use Kaio-Ken against Anilaza, so I think he was saving his strength for the next episode to fight Jiren.

I think Goku greatly improved fighting the Saiyans, and got even stronger as he rested between episodes 116 and 122. Vegeta was only somewhat above Goku in the beginning of the ToP, but I think he caught up either when he almost attained UI fighting Jiren or when powering up and unlocking SSJBE in the next episodes.

So you think Goku was using like 1/10 of his power as SSJB against Agnilasa? Goku SSJB alone had defeated Agnilasa?

What do you think between Frieza 100% (ToP) vs Goku Base (End of ToP)? In Chapter 131 Frieza True Form and Base Goku seemed to be on the same level.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Will 1.5x be ok?

50 fold? Goku got totally overwhelmed from it

 

[SIAD]

50 fold? Goku got totally overwhelmed from it

Genkidama = 50x Goku SSJB Kaioken x20?

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Genkidama = 50x Goku SSJB Kaioken x20?

Yeah, I think that works. Goku was thinking it would kill Jiren, after all