Tired Majin Vegeta vs Fat Buu (Initial Power)

[Goku9001]

This doesn’t mean what you think it does. It’s possible Gohan never achieved full power again and was only able to unleash a full powered blast as well as well as the option his rage is what allowed him to restore himself temporarily to his full power.

If Goku and Vegeta lost 30% of their power, they can only access 70% of their power.

Piccolo undoubtedly lost power after losing his arm against Raditz, yet he was able to muster another full power blast, yet not another.

Your understanding of how these events transpired are crucial to this discussion where I find plenty of issues here to counter your premise.

Nowhere in Goku's speech to Gohan suggests that Gohan needed to get angry. Goku's speech to Kid Gohan is different than the one that Goku gave to Teen Gohan before he fought Dabura. Goku makes no gamble here. He blatantly states that Gohan can unleash his full power and that the only thing holding him back at this point was not his rage, but his self-doubt. Gohan was already enraged which is already evidenced by Gohan's state as a Super Saiyan 2.

You're conflating ki with power. Power refers to the user's current battle power whereas ki refers to stamina. There is no 1:1 relationship between the two. Otherwise, you're asserting that a user's battle power drops after throwing a ki blast. This is proven not to be the case. Your example with Piccolo actually goes against you because Piccolo was evidently at full power after his battle with Raditz given that he displayed a higher reading than the one Raditz gave him initially.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Nowhere in Goku's speech to Gohan suggests that Gohan needed to get angry.

Show me that power we built together once more!

 

[Goku9001]

Show me that power we built together once more!

That doesn't imply it. We all know Goku's training led Gohan up until this point. Rage is something innate but that is contingent upon Gohan's current power.

 

[FeatsofPower]

That doesn't imply it. We all know Goku's training led Gohan up until this point. Rage is something innate but that is contingent upon Gohan's current power.

So Gohan never lost his power? Just his ki?

 

[Goku9001]

So Gohan never lost his power? Just his ki?

Yeah. Goku literally says it's all in his head. His feat and self-doubt are what caused him to lose power which was something Goku made him realize. Even Toriyama mentioned in an interview how courage plays a role in battle power.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Gohan’s issue is completely different though. He lost power because of his mind, Goku and Vegeta lost power from fatigue.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Yeah. Goku literally says it's all in his head. His feat and self-doubt are what caused him to lose power which was something Goku made him realize. Even Toriyama mentioned in an interview how courage plays a role in battle power.

He’s clearly injured. He definitely lost power.

 

[Goku9001]

He’s clearly injured. He definitely lost power.

SSJ Goku was clearly injured from Frieza's nova strike. This doesn't detract from Goku suggesting that it was all in Gohan's head.