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Fantastische Hure said:But then he sees SSJ and said that's what did Freeza in.
Fantastische Hure said:But then he sees SSJ and said that's what did Freeza in.
Fantastische Hure said:But Freeza > normal-state Saiyans.
It's been a while I've watched that, but iirc Cooler states he sees how Goku was able to defeat Freeza when he was using Kaioken only.
So do you think normal Cooler is not that much behind Freeza?sei'taer said:Cooler says that Freeza was stronger than him before he created his 4th transformation. So a form weaker than Freeza was having trouble with Base Goku. His transformed form wastes kaio-ken (multiplier unknown) goku. He's totally wasted by SSJ goku so that can't really be taken into account.
But unless you feel Freeza gets powerful enough after coming back to make up for that type of gap, it's highly likely that Cooler is quite stronger.
It's been a while I've watched that, but iirc Cooler states he sees how Goku was able to defeat Freeza when he was using Kaioken only.
He basically says it twice, once that he could see how Freeza had trouble with goku before either Cooler transforms or goku used kaio-ken, and then he says that he understands how his brother was killed by goku after SSJ.