Ultimate Gohan concedes to Kid Buu for being inferior to him

[CroMagnumDVH]

This is a statement in Dragon Ball Kai, where Gohan directly says that everyone on Earth should give Goku their Ki to complete the Super Spirit Bomb, otherwise (Gohan says this with his own mouth) Earth will be destroyed again DESPITE Gohan and Gotenks residing on Earth:

Gohan is sensing Kid Buu's energy, and showed a look of scare and anxiety. Kind of self explanatory at this point

So what do you make of this I wonder

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Manga =/= Anime.

It being Kai doesn't matter with the argument of "It's Toriyama's cut" being heavily flawed. The anime wasn't creating brand new scenes for the series beyond a few momentary shots to replace those not appropriate under modern animation guidelines, so they couldn't very well change major pieces of dialogue such as the several statements of Pure Boo being the strongest Boo without either the characters' lip movements or the scenes in general becoming disjointed, especially when the original manga presents a very different conclusion. By that logic, we should treat Cell Arc Kuririn as being SSJ tier based on his filler fight with Cell being retained in Kai. There's also Kai retaining the statement of #19 and #20 being the Artificial Humans in Trunks' timeline, despite Z's anime even going out of it's way to omit the soon to be retconned statement, so saying it truly is Toriyama's cut when it keeps in his original mistakes is entirely flawed.

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

Manga =/= Anime.

Your text doesn't prove that at all. All you did is bring some inconsistencies, but that doesn't justify your claims at all.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Your text doesn't prove that at all. All you did is bring some inconsistencies, but that doesn't justify your claims at all.

So pointing out clear differences between the manga and Kai anime doesn't disprove that the latter is Toriyama's vision, regardless of the technical context behind the lack of major changes.

Right...

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

Your text doesn't prove that at all. All you did is bring some inconsistencies, but that doesn't justify your claims at all.

So pointing out clear differences between the manga and Kai anime doesn't disprove that the latter is Toriyama's vision, regardless of the technical context behind the lack of major changes.

Right...

Of course it doesn't. Having errors is a natural thing. How can you claim something to be completely unreliable when the people who made it are said by Akira himself to be more reliable than him, just because it has a couple of outliers? Like, that's a completely unfair judgement

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The fact that they went ahead and added an obviously retconned statement when the original anime went as far as to rectify the mistake. Fact is, the Kai anime still has far more errors and differences to be called a final cut of the canon when it reduces the consistency of the source material and diverges from it at several points. Toriyama stating that the staff were more reliable than him is still flimsy when taking into account his current memory and admittance of it's failings. Trying to say that the more flawed version of the series is supposedly the correct way to analyse it is completely nonsensical.
I don't mind taking evidence from secondary sources such as Kai and the Super anime to use as evidence so long as they don't contradict the manga.

 

[GSM123]

It's actually doubtful whether Gohan could sense Pure Boo or not, given how he relied on Piccolo to confirm Boo's death (And even that could be attributed to Piccolo inheriting Kami's far-seeing abilities):

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Well considering this is Kai that's not much of a surprise seeing how Kid Boo is stronger than even Enraged Gohan-Boo based on this statement

 

[CroMagnumDVH]

It's actually doubtful whether Gohan could sense Pure Boo or not, given how he relied on Piccolo to confirm Boo's death (And even that could be attributed to Piccolo inheriting Kami's far-seeing abilities):

They did sense him. It goes something like this:

Gohan sensed Kid Buu and the Super Spirit Bomb
But Gohan wasn't sure whether Kid Buu died or not, because each time Buu gets disintegrated, he comes back.

Kind of makes sense. Relying on someone doesn't decrease your own reliability

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Gohan had no way of teleporting to Kais' planet to fight Kid Buu before he could kill everyone there. Also, Kid Buu could teleport to Earth and destroy it in an instant, before Gohan could do anything.

 

[Void]

Goku looked thrilled when he thought Vegeta was going to suggest bringing Gohan and Gotenks over to fight. What's self explanatory is that the manga explicitly tells us Kid Boo is pure evil and is the most dangerous because of it. Super Boo and his absorbed forms are capable of rational thought and didn't blow up the planet with opponents still around. Goku absolutely refuses to fight Super Boo without fusion, Gohan whoops Super Boo's ass. It's honestly pretty straightforward.

 

[majin-ku]

Goku looked thrilled when he thought Vegeta was going to suggest bringing Gohan and Gotenks over to fight. What's self explanatory is that the manga explicitly tells us Kid Boo is pure evil and is the most dangerous because of it. Super Boo and his absorbed forms are capable of rational thought and didn't blow up the planet with opponents still around. Goku absolutely refuses to fight Super Boo without fusion, Gohan whoops Super Boo's ass. It's honestly pretty straightforward.

He thrilled because he was happy that Vegeta revived their sons and nothing else. Answer me one thing did goku say the boys can beat him. Did he say the boys will fight alone. He asked him to bring both gohan and gotenks to only fight. Vegeta also look thrilled when good boo fought back against kid boo, which means good boo>kid boo. Gohan look thrilled when tien shinhan saved him from boo-tenks, therefore, boo-tenks<tienshinhan. Never scale again. Even I myself would be happy in a situation where no one is there to help me and I'm in a dire situation despite me being stronger than the helpers but still they are two competent fighters that can at least give me a break. And the craziest thing is that he wanted two guys to fight against a guy who he could beat alone. He didn't even say they would win. This literally upscales goku.

 

[majin-ku]

Gohan had no way of teleporting to Kais' planet to fight Kid Buu before he could kill everyone there. Also, Kid Buu could teleport to Earth and destroy it in an instant, before Gohan could do anything.

Wrong, gohan is sensing his ki and saying that everyone help raise your hands towards the sky. He's literally begging and pleading them. Second, Goku and Kibito Kai in an instant could bring him there which he later even told piccolo. Third, kid boo won't destroy the earth again. It's a trash headcanon. Gohan was unconscious and didn't know anything about kid boo, so he doesn't know if he'll destroy the planet. He is talking about his power because in the next episode he literally said he has tremendous ki. And if he teleports to earth gohan would just one shot but he ain't confident at all. So, when he's talking about earth being in a terrible condition despite him being there it's more than enough to tell ya that he ain't doing anything to kid boo. He could stop cell from blowing up the earth in the last second and if he's strong then he'll simply stop it.