Updated Broly-Moro Saga levels

GreatSaiyaman123

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Ha. Moro got a bigger boost from eating weakass Seven-Three than fusion.

You know, I like to think what he did with Seven-Three was some kind of fusion. He never absorbed energy like that before, and other than regaining youth his appearance never changed before either.

What does bug me though is how the boost Goku gets from Sign to MUI is bigger than the boost he’d get from merging with Vegeta and going SSJBE or even Sign.

Piccolo knows how strong Gogeta is right? He was watching the Broly movie after all.
 

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So you have gone with UI Sign Goku > SSJBE Vegeta post training?
 

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@SSJ2 that’s beyond limits Goku though. I don’t think Goku tapped once out of desperation and can’t even control really counts. Besides, it’s a fairly simple trick that Vegeta should be capable of replicating if needed.

Either way, I could swear I had posted numbers with SSJBE Vegeta > BL Goku somewhere…
 

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@SSJ2 that’s beyond limits Goku though. I don’t think Goku tapped once out of desperation and can’t even control really counts. Besides, it’s a fairly simple trick that Vegeta should be capable of replicating if needed.

Either way, I could swear I had posted numbers with SSJBE Vegeta > BL Goku somewhere…
Maybe you should put Vegeta SSJB (Post Yadart) with 64,000.
 

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Found the more recent numbers.

After Moro says Goku isn’t as strong as he expected we cut away from their fight, and when we come back Moro is stomping Goku. Gohan mentions Goku’s stamina, but I think it’s possible Moro made another power up when we weren’t looking since he also stomps on BL Goku.

UI Sign Goku
~ Suppressed: 80
~ Full power: 100
~ Beyond limits: 120


SSJBE Vegeta: 125

Moro
~ Initial: 80
~ Powered up: 100
~ 2nd power up: 150
~ OG73I absorbed: 250
~ Full power: 300

MUI Goku: 600

Did Moro get even stronger than he was pre Spirit Fission by eating 73, or was he just not going all out on Goku and Vegeta?
 

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ToP
Goku: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ Beyond limits: 500
~ UI Sign: 2,500
~ UI: 6,250

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ SSJBE: 625

Freeza: 2.5
~ Golden form: 125

Ultimate Gohan: 250
SSJ Kefla: 250

Toppo: 125

Jiren: 1,000
~ Powered up: 2,500
~ Full power: 5,000
~ Beyond limits: 6,000

Belmond: 4,500

Broly
Goku: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG: 60
~ SSJB: 150

Vegeta: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG (Suppressed): 30
~ SSJB: 150

Broly: 2.25
~ Getting used: 2.7
~ Vs SSJ Vegeta: 6.75
~ Ikari, initial: 67.5
~ Full power: 135
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ LSSJ: 67,500
~ Peak: 112,500

Freeza: 25
~ Golden form: 1,250

Gogeta: 2,700
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ SSJB: 168,750

Moro
Goku: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ3: 30
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300

Vegeta: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 48
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300
~ SSJBE: 1,500

Moro: 45
~ Young: 90
~ Start of Dai Kaioshin fight: 112.5
~ End of Dai Kaioshin fight: 225

Dai Kaioshin Boo: 150

Saganbo: 30

Yuzun: 21.6
~ Monster form: 28.8

2 months later...

18: 300
17: 320
Piccolo: 450
Gohan: 500

Saganbo: 1,000
~ Peak: 2,000

Goku: 40
~ SSJB: 2,500
~ UI Sign: 80,000
~ Full power: 100,000
~ Beyond limits: 120,000
~ UI: 600,000

Vegeta: 400
~ SSJB: 25,000
~ SSJBE: 125,000

Merus: 600,000

Moro: 80,000
~ Powered up: 100,000
~ Full power: 150,000
~ Merged with OG73I: 250,000
~ Full power: 300,000
~ UI: 600,000
 
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ToP
Goku: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ Beyond limits: 500
~ UI Sign: 2,500
~ UI: 6,250

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ SSJBE: 625

Freeza: 2.5
~ Golden form: 125

Ultimate Gohan: 250
SSJ Kefla: 250

Toppo: 125

Jiren: 1,000
~ Powered up: 2,500
~ Full power: 5,000
~ Beyond limits: 6,000

Belmond: 4,500

Broly
Goku: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG: 60
~ SSJB: 150

Vegeta: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG (Suppressed): 30
~ SSJB: 150

Broly: 2.25
~ Getting used: 2.7
~ Vs SSJ Vegeta: 6.75
~ Ikari, initial: 67.5
~ Full power: 135
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ LSSJ: 67,500
~ Peak: 112,500

Freeza: 25
~ Golden form: 1,250

Gogeta: 2,700
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ SSJB: 168,750

Moro
Goku: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ3: 30
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300

Vegeta: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 48
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300
~ SSJBE: 1,500

Moro: 45
~ Young: 90
~ Start of Dai Kaioshin fight: 112.5
~ End of Dai Kaioshin fight: 225

Dai Kaioshin Boo: 150

Saganbo: 30

Yuzun: 21.6
~ Monster form: 28.8

2 months later...

17: 300
18: 320
Piccolo: 450
Gohan: 500

Saganbo: 1,000
~ Peak: 2,000

Goku: 40
~ SSJB: 2,500
~ UI Sign: 80,000
~ Full power: 100,000
~ Beyond limits: 120,000
~ UI: 600,000

Vegeta: 400
~ SSJB: 25,000
~ SSJBE: 125,000

Merus: 600,000

Moro: 80,000
~ Powered up: 100,000
~ Full power: 150,000
~ Merged with OG73I: 250,000
~ Full power: 300,000
~ UI: 600,000
Everything is fine, I just think you changed the order between Android # 17 and Android # 18.

Do you think Vegeta Base (Post Yadart) is >>>>>>>>> Super Yuzun?
 

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Belmod over 100x weaker than Beerus. Oh man. I just would LOVE to see Toyotaro work out the numbers on that one since he wrote all the lines suggesting it.
 

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Beerus vs Belmond ispretty much Ginyu vs Raditz, and the gap is definitely getting bigger :punk

Maybe Beerus has been training in secret? :troll
 

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He doesn't give the impression that he trains, though. The only time it might have made sense to say that is when he taught Vegeta how to use Ultra Ego, but we're not given any indication he got stronger from that.
 

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He image trains when he sleeps.
 

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@GreatSaiyaman123 Apparently Beerus, Quitela, Rumoosh, Mosco are hundreds of times stronger than the other Hakaishins (except for Champa). After all, the only ones who gave Beerus a bit of trouble were Mosco and Rumoosh.

Rumoosh was probably the one who hurt Quitela while he was paralyzed. Mosco was probably the one who defeated the other Hakaishins and was later defeated by Rumoosh.

As for Sabango (Namek) and Super Yuzun, it's that Base Vegeta didn't seem to be tens of times stronger than Super Yuzun. After all Saganbo saw Goku and Vegeta fight PSSJB (Semi absorbed) and still was impressed that Vegeta had defeated Super Yuzun. Sabango had no idea that Vegeta was in Base state when he defeated Super Yuzun, as he only found out that Vegeta had defeated Super Yuzun due to Moro telling about it.

As for Goku / Vegeta PSSJB (Arc Moro)> Gohan. I still have my doubts, how was it that Piccolo and Gohan deduced that Goku / Vegeta PSSJB were> Gohan, if these 2 in their PSSJB form against Broly still did not reach Gohan? Could it be that after finishing their fight they had a Zenkai Power that Piccolo and Gohan found out about? Like I think these 2 knew that Goku was stronger than Gohan, since they saw Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken in the ToP.

Also, Golden Freeza (Broly) shouldn't be much superior to Vegeta SSJBE (ToP), since Freeza needed a partner to defeat the Saiyans.

What levels of the a UI Goku (Current), MI Vegeta, Granolah and Gas?

I think that maybe at the beginning of the fight between Golden Freeza vs Broly SSJ, the latter was not leagues more powerful than Freeza, but by using it as a punching bag for more than an hour, it made Broly become tremendously more powerful and invincible.
 
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ToP
Goku: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ Beyond limits: 500
~ UI Sign: 2,500
~ UI: 6,250

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ SSJBE: 625

Freeza: 2.5
~ Golden form: 125

Ultimate Gohan: 250
SSJ Kefla: 250

Toppo: 125

Jiren: 1,000
~ Powered up: 2,500
~ Full power: 5,000
~ Beyond limits: 6,000

Belmond: 4,500

Broly
Goku: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG: 60
~ SSJB: 150

Vegeta: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG (Suppressed): 30
~ SSJB: 150

Broly: 2.25
~ Getting used: 2.7
~ Vs SSJ Vegeta: 6.75
~ Ikari, initial: 67.5
~ Full power: 135
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ LSSJ: 67,500
~ Peak: 112,500

Freeza: 25
~ Golden form: 1,250

Gogeta: 2,700
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ SSJB: 168,750

Moro
Goku: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ3: 30
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300

Vegeta: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 48
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300
~ SSJBE: 1,500

Moro: 45
~ Young: 90
~ Start of Dai Kaioshin fight: 112.5
~ End of Dai Kaioshin fight: 225

Dai Kaioshin Boo: 150

Saganbo: 30

Yuzun: 21.6
~ Monster form: 28.8

2 months later...

18: 300
17: 320
Piccolo: 450
Gohan: 500

Saganbo: 1,000
~ Peak: 2,000

Goku: 40
~ SSJB: 2,500
~ UI Sign: 80,000
~ Full power: 100,000
~ Beyond limits: 120,000
~ UI: 600,000

Vegeta: 400
~ SSJB: 25,000
~ SSJBE: 125,000

Merus: 600,000

Moro: 80,000
~ Powered up: 100,000
~ Full power: 150,000
~ Merged with OG73I: 250,000
~ Full power: 300,000
~ UI: 600,000
Will you keep Broly just as powerful? I at least yes.
 

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ToP
Goku: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ Beyond limits: 500
~ UI Sign: 2,500
~ UI: 6,250

Vegeta: 2
~ SSJB: 125
~ SSJBE: 625

Freeza: 2.5
~ Golden form: 125

Ultimate Gohan: 250
SSJ Kefla: 250

Toppo: 125

Jiren: 1,000
~ Powered up: 2,500
~ Full power: 5,000
~ Beyond limits: 6,000

Belmond: 4,500

Broly
Goku: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG: 60
~ SSJB: 150

Vegeta: 2.4
~ SSJ: 6
~ SSJG (Suppressed): 30
~ SSJB: 150

Broly: 2.25
~ Getting used: 2.7
~ Vs SSJ Vegeta: 6.75
~ Ikari, initial: 67.5
~ Full power: 135
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ LSSJ: 67,500
~ Peak: 112,500

Freeza: 25
~ Golden form: 1,250

Gogeta: 2,700
~ SSJ: 6,750
~ SSJB: 168,750

Moro
Goku: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ3: 30
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300

Vegeta: 4.8
~ SSJ: 12
~ SSJ2: 48
~ SSJG: 120
~ SSJB: 300
~ SSJBE: 1,500

Moro: 45
~ Young: 90
~ Start of Dai Kaioshin fight: 112.5
~ End of Dai Kaioshin fight: 225

Dai Kaioshin Boo: 150

Saganbo: 30

Yuzun: 21.6
~ Monster form: 28.8

2 months later...

18: 300
17: 320
Piccolo: 450
Gohan: 500

Saganbo: 1,000
~ Peak: 2,000

Goku: 40
~ SSJB: 2,500
~ UI Sign: 80,000
~ Full power: 100,000
~ Beyond limits: 120,000
~ UI: 600,000

Vegeta: 400
~ SSJB: 25,000
~ SSJBE: 125,000

Merus: 600,000

Moro: 80,000
~ Powered up: 100,000
~ Full power: 150,000
~ Merged with OG73I: 250,000
~ Full power: 300,000
~ UI: 600,000
@GreatSaiyaman123

We can see that Android #17 gave OG73-I (Moro) a beating. Do not forget that this version of OG73-I (Moro) had absorbed a Kamehameha from Gohan 2 months ago, therefore OG73-I should be more powerful than Moro (Post Namek), however, do not forget that Gohan and Piccolo had seriously hurt OG73-I (Gohan). OG73-I being damaged means that in whatever mode it is in, it won't be able to use its full power. Even OG73-I (Moro) takes a surprise hit from Android #17, as OG73-I thought that he could absorb Android #17's energy. After that blow, Android #17 himself comments that OG73-I was damaged and then beats him up.

Who is stronger between Android #17 (Arc Moro) and Moro (Post Namek)?
 

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Gohan > Piccolo > Android 17 > 7-3 > Moro (Namek)
 
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