ahill1 said:At least anime-wise, Vegeta stated that he received a good increase of power upon coming back from death, so I'd like to see him at least on their level after some months hanging around Earth and training. It depends on how it plays out, but I think Goku defeats him after a very though battle.
SIAD said:ahill1 said:At least anime-wise, Vegeta stated that he received a good increase of power upon coming back from death, so I'd like to see him at least on their level after some months hanging around Earth and training. It depends on how it plays out, but I think Goku defeats him after a very though battle.
How strong do you have to Vegeta to revive?
ahill1 said:SIAD said:ahill1 said:At least anime-wise, Vegeta stated that he received a good increase of power upon coming back from death, so I'd like to see him at least on their level after some months hanging around Earth and training. It depends on how it plays out, but I think Goku defeats him after a very though battle.
How strong do you have to Vegeta to revive?
Considerably stronger than he was on Namek, but still somewhat weaker than base Goku/warm up Freeza.
Generally somewhat stronger than 3rd form Freeza, but still no match for post Zenkai Vegeta, which seems to align with the addition that each Gohan and Kuririn gave him. I think such boost would align with their powers. Still, one could ask "why'd Piccolo think that merely going from his level to 3rd form Freeza would work better in attacking an enemy who was kicking Kkx10's ass?", therein leading to a possible more significant jump in power.SIAD said:ahill1 said:SIAD said:How strong do you have to Vegeta to revive?
Considerably stronger than he was on Namek, but still somewhat weaker than base Goku/warm up Freeza.
How strong do you have Piccolo after receiving energy from Gohan and Krillin?
ahill1 said:Generally somewhat stronger than 3rd form Freeza, but still no match for post Zenkai Vegeta, which seems to align with the addition that each Gohan and Kuririn gave him. I think such boost would align with their powers. Still, one could ask "why'd Piccolo think that merely going from his level to 3rd form Freeza would work better in attacking an enemy who was kicking Kkx10's ass?", therein leading to a possible more significant jump in power.SIAD said:ahill1 said:Considerably stronger than he was on Namek, but still somewhat weaker than base Goku/warm up Freeza.
How strong do you have Piccolo after receiving energy from Gohan and Krillin?
I think that Vegeta just realized that killing Gohan would accomplish to nothing. I don't think it was power related as moments before Vegeta was bragging about being the strongest warrior now that Goku's gone. I don't think that was meant to say Piccolo was a threat to him. But then again, in the next episode Vegeta was already back to the position he was beforehand, in the tree and helping everyone in how to revive Goku. Toei just poorly thought up this entire scene into making Vegeta still a villain that took advantage of Goku being gone, as opposed to the Vegeta that was interested in the SSJ like AT planned. Those filler scenes were just poorly planned out.SIAD said:ahill1 said:Generally somewhat stronger than 3rd form Freeza, but still no match for post Zenkai Vegeta, which seems to align with the addition that each Gohan and Kuririn gave him. I think such boost would align with their powers. Still, one could ask "why'd Piccolo think that merely going from his level to 3rd form Freeza would work better in attacking an enemy who was kicking Kkx10's ass?", therein leading to a possible more significant jump in power.SIAD said:How strong do you have Piccolo after receiving energy from Gohan and Krillin?
I also have Piccolo relatively on Frieza Third Form. What do you think of Vegeta not attacking Gohan when Piccolo thought to interrupt the fight?
ahill1 said:I think that Vegeta just realized that killing Gohan would accomplish to nothing. I don't think it was power related as moments before Vegeta was bragging about being the strongest warrior now that Goku's gone. I don't think that was meant to say Piccolo was a threat to him. But then again, in the next episode Vegeta was already back to the position he was beforehand, in the tree and helping everyone in how to revive Goku. Toei just poorly thought up this entire scene into making Vegeta still a villain that took advantage of Goku being gone, as opposed to the Vegeta that was interested in the SSJ like AT planned. Those filler scenes were just poorly planned out.SIAD said:ahill1 said:Generally somewhat stronger than 3rd form Freeza, but still no match for post Zenkai Vegeta, which seems to align with the addition that each Gohan and Kuririn gave him. I think such boost would align with their powers. Still, one could ask "why'd Piccolo think that merely going from his level to 3rd form Freeza would work better in attacking an enemy who was kicking Kkx10's ass?", therein leading to a possible more significant jump in power.
I also have Piccolo relatively on Frieza Third Form. What do you think of Vegeta not attacking Gohan when Piccolo thought to interrupt the fight?