Vegeta had learned SS3 too?

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Let say Vegeta manages to unlock ss3 during the 7 year after cell. What would change?
 

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Guess he wouldn't get Majin and just end up getting stomped by SSJ3 Galu when he gets sick of Dabura and kills him in one blast and challenges :galu After that Goku would just kill Babidi and go back to the afterlife.

Nobody ends up learning Fusion, Beerus just enjoys his food and leaves the planet alone due to there being no Boo. Afterwards Freeza gets revived and due to there being no Galu and no Majin Boo or Beerus fights, only trains for a month or two but still ends up killing Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan and Goten. The Ginyu 2.0 arc doesn't happen due to the lack of Galu, nor do the U6 and ToP arcs and U7 just gets erased by Zeno later.
 

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Dabura and Babidi are easily dealt with through Vegeta not perceiving a need for the boost until afterwards. I'd say it's unlikely Beerus would just leave though due to his obsession with SSG and just ask calmly about it after the party and the Dragon Balls being used to bring Tarble to Earth and make Vegeta the SSG. Because Vegeta wouldn't let his guard down against Sorbet, he might be able to kill Freeza before the latter gets in the position to blow up the Earth. If so, Universe 6 wins the tournament due to the lack of Galu, Zamasu ends up taking Hit's body instead of Goku's but would inevitably end up being caught by the Daishinkan or Zen-Oh of one timeline. The ToP never happens and Vegeta is very underprepared for Moro, dying on New Namek. If not, Freeza simply wins and continues conquering the universe unless he finds a reason to kill Paragus when he eventually finds him.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Dabura and Babidi are easily dealt with through Vegeta not perceiving a need for the boost until afterwards. I'd say it's unlikely Beerus would just leave though due to his obsession with SSG and just ask calmly about it after the party and the Dragon Balls being used to bring Tarble to Earth and make Vegeta the SSG. Because Vegeta wouldn't let his guard down against Sorbet, he might be able to kill Freeza before the latter gets in the position to blow up the Earth. If so, Universe 6 wins the tournament due to the lack of Galu, Zamasu ends up taking Hit's body instead of Goku's but would inevitably end up being caught by the Daishinkan or Zen-Oh of one timeline. The ToP never happens and Vegeta is very underprepared for Moro, dying on New Namek. If not, Freeza simply wins and continues conquering the universe unless he finds a reason to kill Paragus when he eventually finds him.
Does goku remain in otherworld in this scenario after his 1 day stay?
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Dabura and Babidi are easily dealt with through Vegeta not perceiving a need for the boost until afterwards. I'd say it's unlikely Beerus would just leave though due to his obsession with SSG and just ask calmly about it after the party and the Dragon Balls being used to bring Tarble to Earth and make Vegeta the SSG.
Shenlong immediately disappeared after answering Beerus' question though. There wouldn't be a second wish to bring Tarble to Earth.
 

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Ultimate Cell said:
Does goku remain in otherworld in this scenario after his 1 day stay?
Yes. There'd be no reason for him to return without a threat making it necessary, and the wishes made by Sorbet and Pilaf's gang would make using the Dragon Balls or going to Namek in that timeframe an impossibility.

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Shenlong immediately disappeared after answering Beerus' question though. There wouldn't be a second wish to bring Tarble to Earth.
With it clear there'd be one less Saiyan than needed for the ritual from the start, it'd seem pretty idiotic here if they didn't ask Shenlong to wish him there before leaving. In the normal version of BoG, such wasn't brought up purely due to a miscalculation of needing 6 rather than 5 as opposed to seemingly only having 4 available.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Kenshi said:
Shenlong immediately disappeared after answering Beerus' question though. There wouldn't be a second wish to bring Tarble to Earth.
With it clear there'd be one less Saiyan than needed for the ritual from the start, it'd seem pretty idiotic here if they didn't ask Shenlong to wish him there before leaving. In the normal version of BoG, such wasn't brought up purely due to a miscalculation of needing 6 rather than 5 as opposed to seemingly only having 4 available.

They wouldn't know that the ritual requires 5 Saiyans to donate their ki or light or whatever unless Shenlong already answered the question about SSJG, and that was already construed as a wish. You have the carriage before the horse.
 

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He did tell them that 5 pure hearted Saiyans brought their Ki together to transfer into the SSG though, which would make things a dead end for them otherwise with them only counting 4 prior to Videl's reveal, and they'd still have 2 wishes available after this that'd make one a pretty obvious choice to make before Beerus shooed Shenlong off.
 

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But Tarble would need to be wished to Earth, which would require another wish from the Dragon Balls that wasn't available in the BoG canon. You'd have to write it so Beerus threatens to Hakai Shenlong if he doesn't just talk (this not being counted as a wish), or for Tarble to have given Vegeta his address before leaving. Which can happen, but only if you change things from the original arc further than merely Galu being absent.
 

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Assuming no other wishes had been made that year, there were two wishes available. BoG takes place 4 years after the Boo Arc, and Shenlong's reason for leaving in the original seemed to be purely to not annoy Beerus rather than the necessary wishes being made.
 

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This happened again with DBS Broly. Shenlong disappeared after only granting one wish. We can infer that it was either due to him having already granted wishes the same year, or it could be because Shenlong was shitting bricks at the thought of being Hakai'd and excused himself, but the point is that the situation would be the exact same, just without Galu.
 
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