Vegeta (Saiyan-Saga) vs Dr. Uiro

[Fantastische Hure]

Who wins?

 

[Tapion]

Dr. Wheelo wins with ease. He was able to overpower KKx3 Goku handily, Vegeta was being stomped by the same Goku.

 

[GSM123]

Tapion is right. The Vegeta who fought Recoome would be a better match for Wheelo.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Dr. Wheelo wins with ease. He was able to overpower KKx3 Goku handily, Vegeta was being stomped by the same Goku.

But his arm got knocked-off by Kaio-Ken Goku and he did a blast to over-power Kaio-Ken x3 Goku.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Same as Tapion said. The version of Goku Uiro fought was also likely stronger than his Saiyan Arc self by a fair amount, as the Dragon Balls' usage shows at least 1 year had passed since the battle with Vegeta in this timeline.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Same as Tapion said. The version of Goku Uiro fought was also likely stronger than his Saiyan Arc self by a fair amount, as the Dragon Balls' usage shows at least 1 year had passed since the battle with Vegeta in this timeline.

But in an actual fight Goku knocked his arm off and Dr. Uiro with a blast was only stale-mating (at best) Goku with a Kaio-Ken x3, which Vegeta also did.

 

[Flame]

Dr. Wheelo wins, he took far less damage than Vegeta from Goku's Kaioken Kamehameha.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

But in an actual fight Goku knocked his arm off and Dr. Uiro with a blast was only stale-mating (at best) Goku with a Kaio-Ken x3, which Vegeta also did.

Stalemating without an amplified attack is a lot more impressive than what Vegeta did, not to mention Uiro had already taken attacks from Gohan, Goku, Roshi and Kuririn prior to that iirc.

 

[Tapion]

Vegeta needed the Galick Ho, his most powerful attack, to even touch Kaio-ken x3 Goku. Dr Wheelo fired a half-assed blast and matched Goku's KKH.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

That's all OK, but I feel like the beam-battle was supposed to be a copy of the beam-struggle with Vegeta and Goku, so the amplification problem doesn't really matter here I think.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That's all OK, but I feel like the beam-battle was supposed to be a copy of the beam-struggle with Vegeta and Goku, so the amplification problem doesn't really matter here I think.

Parallels like that don't mean anything in regard to feats or statements. Giant Slug getting torn through by Goku was a copy of what happened with Piccolo Daimao, yet the two are nowhere close in power.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

That's all OK, but I feel like the beam-battle was supposed to be a copy of the beam-struggle with Vegeta and Goku, so the amplification problem doesn't really matter here I think.

Parallels like that don't mean anything in regard to feats or statements. Giant Slug getting torn through by Goku was a copy of what happened with Piccolo Daimao, yet the two are nowhere close in power.

That's true, but Movie 4 was a rip-off that came way after. This movie happened around the same time, even time-line wise and Goku uses only upto Kaio-Ken x4 and a Genki-Dama like he does against Vegeta.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

This movie happened around the same time, even time-line wise

Impossible when the Dragon Balls were used in the Movie. It'd have to take place at bare minimum 1 year after the Saiyan Arc, meaning that M2 Goku > Saiyan Arc Goku.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

This movie happened around the same time, even time-line wise

Impossible when the Dragon Balls were used in the Movie. It'd have to take place at bare minimum 1 year after the Saiyan Arc, meaning that M2 Goku > Saiyan Arc Goku.

That's more of a movie inconsistency, right?!

 

[SIAD]

This movie happened around the same time, even time-line wise

Impossible when the Dragon Balls were used in the Movie. It'd have to take place at bare minimum 1 year after the Saiyan Arc, meaning that M2 Goku > Saiyan Arc Goku.

I agree, although not necessarily a year, considering that in that Timeline, Piccolo died and they had to go to Namek to revive it and immediately they had to reappear the Spheres of the Dragon.

  But I very much agree with the chain.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I agree, although not necessarily a year, considering that in that Timeline, Piccolo died and they had to go to Namek to revive it and immediately they had to reappear the Spheres of the Dragon.
  But I very much agree with the chain.

It's far more likely that the change here was that Nappa's attack didn't have enough effort in it to kill Piccolo in this timeline, or Goku arrived earlier with a Senzu for him.

 

[SIAD]

It's a posibility.

  I have Goku Base (M2) with a power of 11,200.