Vegeta (Saiyans Saga, tired vs Gohan) vs Piccolo (Saiyans Saga)

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The Vegeta to whom Gohan could at least buy some time in order for Kuririn to control the Genki-Dama. Who wins?
 

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Vegeta stomps imo, considering he was still capable of surviving the Genki-Dama, PIS or not. Most likely, Gohan's rage boost VS Vegeta >/>> Gohan's Masenko VS Nappa.
 

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The team then has a chance against Vegeta. We need to count Vegeta's injuries and stamina weakened him as well.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Vegeta stomps imo, considering he was still capable of surviving the Genki-Dama, PIS or not. Most likely, Gohan's rage boost VS Vegeta >/>> Gohan's Masenko VS Nappa.
What about post Genki-Dama Vegeta?
 

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Post-Genki Dama Vegeta couldn't even kill Yajirobe, so he likely gets stomped.
 

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This version keep up with a enraged Gohan, who was stated to be stronger than Piccolo. Vegeta stomps. Though post SB would be screwed since he can't one shot Yajirobe.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
This version keep up with a enraged Gohan, who was stated to be stronger than Piccolo. Vegeta stomps. Though post SB would be screwed since he can't one shot Yajirobe.

Fair enough, Saiyaman.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Post-Genki Dama Vegeta couldn't even kill Yajirobe, so he likely gets stomped.

He couldn't one-shot Yajirobe. Didn't you say one-shot gaps weren't linear at all?
 

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He couldn't one-shot Yajirobe. Didn't you say one-shot gaps weren't linear at all?
Whilst that's true, Vegeta also mentioned how his Explosive Wave was incapable of killing Goku, Gohan and Kuririn being a sign of how weakened he was. Due to that context, being unable to oneshot Yajirobe can be viewed with a linear mindset here.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
ahill1 said:
He couldn't one-shot Yajirobe. Didn't you say one-shot gaps weren't linear at all?
Whilst that's true, Vegeta also mentioned how his Explosive Wave was incapable of killing Goku, Gohan and Kuririn being a sign of how weakened he was. Due to that context, being unable to oneshot Yajirobe can be viewed with a linear mindset here.
Fair enough. Then what about [pre Genki-Dama/vs gohan] Vegeta vs Nappa? You said Vegeta would easily defeat Piccolo, but how does he fare against Nappa?
 

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It's hard to judge Vegeta's power at that point. Either he's so weakened that Gohan can fight well against him with a rage boost, or Gohan's rage boost was simply that big.

Considering after the KKx4 Kamehameha and Power Ball, Oozaru Vegeta was at a level where Goku only stated he'd be no match for him with Kaioken x5, that leads me to believe Oozaru Vegeta wouldn't be much higher than the 45-50k range, otherwise, why not compare him to x10 Kaioken? That said, Nappa stomps at his full power, though may lose if it's just at the level he was using prior to Goku arriving.
 

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Oozaru Vegeta wouldn't be much higher than the 45-50k range, otherwise, why not compare him to x10 Kaioken?
Maybe because Goku could still perform a Kaioken x5, while the 10-fold Kaioken was just too much out of his reach?
 

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Vegeta would stomp, as he was still capable of beating Enraged Gohan. Nappa would easily kill him though
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Diamond Ryan said:
Vegeta would stomp, as he was still capable of beating Enraged Gohan. Nappa would easily kill him though
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Prove enraged Gohan was as strong as before.
 

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ahill1 said:
Diamond Ryan said:
Vegeta would stomp, as he was still capable of beating Enraged Gohan. Nappa would easily kill him though
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Prove enraged Gohan was as strong as before.

Why should I? There's nothing stating or implying that Gohan's rage boost was any weaker than before. If anything, he would be stronger, but for simplicity's sake, I keep him the same.
 

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Diamond Ryan said:
Why should I?
Because you have to prove it, boyyyyyyyy.

Anyway I agree, but how strong would be Vegeta? like 3,200?
 
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