Vegetto vs Gogeta

[Captain Cadaver]

Using the manga, I would say that Gogeta shouldn't be massively above Gotenks in any form, I'd say an SS3 Gogeta could probably beat Ultimate Gohan but I don't see him taking on Bootenks or Boohan.

Goku seemed assured he could defeat Gotenks Boo with fusion prior to being shown the Potara if not for the time it'd take to perform the dance and Elder Kaioshin didn't contradict his opinion in terms of the necessary power. Considering Gohan would have to suppress his power to be equal to Goku's for the fusion to work, it's most likely that Metamoran Gokhan = Gogeta. Even without the rival boost, SS3 Gogeta should at least be above Gotenks Boo.

 

[ekrolo2]

Using the manga, I would say that Gogeta shouldn't be massively above Gotenks in any form, I'd say an SS3 Gogeta could probably beat Ultimate Gohan but I don't see him taking on Bootenks or Boohan.

Goku seemed assured he could defeat Gotenks Boo with fusion prior to being shown the Potara if not for the time it'd take to perform the dance and Elder Kaioshin didn't contradict his opinion in terms of the necessary power. Considering Gohan would have to suppress his power to be equal to Goku's for the fusion to work, it's most likely that Metamoran Gokhan = Gogeta. Even without the rival boost, SS3 Gogeta should at least be above Gotenks Boo.

I usually put Gokhan above all the other potential Z fusions simply because of Ultimate, even if Gohan dropped his power to match his dad, he would instantly get his potential unlocked through Ultimate, making him ridiculously more powerful then even Vegetto.

I somewhat low ball Gogeta since the boys comprising Gotenks don't see to be that far off from their dads in terms of individual power, meaning Gogeta shouldn't be that much above Gotenks. I wouldn't put him as more than 10-30% stronger.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Ultimate isn't exactly in a form in the original manga though, seeming to just be Gohan's full power. Even if assuming it was a form Gokhan could utilise, there should be no way Goku would be aware of this and both he and Elder Kaioshin only seemed to be referring to the Super Saiyan forms of the fusion.

 

[ekrolo2]

Ultimate isn't exactly in a form in the original manga though, seeming to just be Gohan's full power. Even if assuming it was a form Gokhan could utilise, there should be no way Goku would be aware of this and both he and Elder Kaioshin only seemed to be referring to the Super Saiyan forms of the fusion.

How could he not? Gohan's already in it and that's the Gohan who's powering down to match with him, Gokhan should logically get his potential unlocked the instant he's born.

 

[ahill1]

I'd still like to hear a counter to what I displayed above, if possible.

I have always assumed that Old Kai thinking base will already be plenty whereas Goku thought they would need SSJ to get the job done as a flat out indicator that the fusion through the Potaras is simply more powerful. But what if this is all because in the fusion through the earrings Gohan wouldn't have to match his battle power to Gohan's one, whereas in a fusion Dance matching the battle powers accordingly would be a needed? The latter could be damning to a warrior as powerful as Gohan, as we aren't sure if the suppressed power simply re-appear once both are fused.

So, how would you guys counter this hypothetical counter argument someone could pull off?

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I didn't comment on this? I thought I did...anyway I'm a bit rusty with ma numbers, but if I remember correctly I've gone with the bare minimum of having Gogeta be 1/3 of Vegetto.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Since i support the theory that there is no such thing as a fusion formula and, just like
when a couple has a child, you never know what might come out, i'll go with the implications
that SSJ3 Gogeta<= Buuhan.