Vergo vs Who's Who

[Future Warrior]

Who wins?

 

[SSJ2]

Prob WW. He gave current Jinbe some trouble. I can't see Jinbe being weaker than Law at Punk Hazard who was able to destroy Vergo.

 

[Future Warrior]

Prob WW. He gave current Jinbe some trouble. I can't see Jinbe being weaker than Law at Punk Hazard who was able to destroy Vergo.

Sanji was getting overwhelmed by Vergo tho.

 

[SSJ2]

Yea but Sanju now should be far stronger.

 

[Future Warrior]

Jinbei > PH Law?

Law would beat all the Tobbi Roppo combined.

 

[SSJ2]

Didn't Jinbe physically overpower Big Mom at some point in WCI? I can't see Law doing that in PH whether he can slash a mountain or not.

 

[Future Warrior]

He doesn't need to do that. I don't know why you put that much stock into brute force feats.

Kurapika vs Uvogin from HxH should have made you think twice about that.

 

[SSJ2]

Because it isn't so simple in One Piece. How are you certain that Jinbe's feat is less impressive than Law's? I'll be the first to say that I have no idea and I'm just guessing, but knocking a Yonko down is pretty impressive. Would Law's sword slash cause Big Mom similar trouble?

 

[Future Warrior]

Because it isn't so simple in One Piece. How are you certain that Jinbe's feat is less impressive than Law's? I'll be the first to say that I have no idea and I'm just guessing, but knocking a Yonko down is pretty impressive. Would Law's sword slash cause Big Mom similar trouble?

You're right, it's not so simple. Did you forget that Law has a technique that can blow up your internal organs?

If you're Haki isn't strong enough, he can split you into pieces and call it a day. Law would destroy WsW faster than Jinbei ever could.

Jozu can lift up a giant iceberg. You think someone like Fujitora could do that with his bare hands? No, but he'd still beat Jozu.

 

[SSJ2]

The wildcard is Haki though. Law has some pretty insane techniques but is his Haki in PH high enough to manage this?

Spoiler

All we saw is that he was good enough to beat Vergo. Come Dressrosa he was clearly far inferior to Doflamingo in terms of Haki. I can't see someone far weaker than Doflamingo having the Haki to stop a Yonko's attack.

 

[Future Warrior]

He's not fighting a Yonko so why keep bringing it up?

 

[SSJ2]

What?

 

[Future Warrior]

I'm wondering why you keep bringing up Law being incapable of blocking a Yonko attack when he's fighting Jinbei.

 

[SSJ2]

Well I'm trying to scale both of their performances. From what I remember of Law versus Doflamingo, he was completely outclassed (admittedly my memory of Dressrosa is terrible). For the sake of scaling, let's assume that Doflamingo is on the level of low end Yonko Commanders. Jinbe took the attack from Big Mom and was able to block it with Haki but eventually got overwhelmed.. either way he was able to remain in the fight and didn't seem too worse for wear. That attack seemed to be a standard attack without Haki from a crazed Big Mom, which reminds me of Big Mom versus Queen in Udon. Queen probably faced a more brutal barrage from Big Mom, but Jinbe didn't look all that much worse to me..

Which brings me to this:

Queen >= Doflamingo > Jinbe >> Law (Punk Hazard) >/> Vergo

That's just how I see it. Jinbe is in the company of the strongest straw hats now and was troubled by Who's Who. Who's Who also had confidence in being able to take out one of the 3 Calamities so I don't see him being a pushover. I'd think someone as weak as Vergo would know they have no chance in a battle with a Yonko commander.

 

[Future Warrior]

You didn't address any of the examples I showed what Law could do with his Devil Fruit. How is brute strength and Haki saving Jinbei?

 

[SSJ2]

But this thread isn't about Law vs Jinbe, I'm only using them to scale both of their opponents.



Aside from a couple of Law's attacks, most of them require him to have greater Haki to be effective.

 

[Future Warrior]

You don't think PH Law would have greater Haki than WsW?

WsW didn't pose as much trouble to Jinbei as you're making it seem. He got destroyed.

 

[SSJ2]

I'll reread the fight in a bit when I have time. I just can't see Vergo being hyped up to fight Doflamingo for his position. It seemed pretty clear that he was a mere subordinate. The Tobi roppo seem to be somewhat within range of the Calamities.

 

[Future Warrior]

The Tobi roppo seem to be somewhat within range of the Calamities.

Hell no, Jinbei thrashed WsW. Queen and King are definitely stronger than Jinbei.

 

[SSJ2]

Luffy was going to use G4 on Ulti. She was equal to his G3 self after all the training he had done. The Calamities are at best equal to his pre Wano G4 self, so the Tobi Roppo can't be pushovers based on this. Jinbe did wreck WW but it didn't seem like an easy fight. He was huffing and puffing midway through and had to use the Fishman Karate secret technique to finish the job.