Was Itachi always supposed to be good?

[Fantastische Hure]

Was he??? 2 2 2

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Itachi is the best character in fiction

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Itachi is the best character in fiction

that was not the q, tho -_- -_- -_-

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Itachi is the best character in fiction

that was not the q, tho -_- -_- -_-

It doesnt matter what he is. He is always the best.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Itachi is the best character in fiction

that was not the q, tho -_- -_- -_-

It doesnt matter what he is. He is always the best.

:drugs :drugs :drugs

 

[Kyo]

Doubt it. Kishi pulled in the whole "Sasuke forgot that he saw Itachi turn around and cry" bit out of nowhere for example.

Also, Itachi only went to Konoha to check on Sasuke or something, but there are issues with this idea. First, he has to go under the guise that he's looking the Nine Tails, which he does. Second, he casts a genjutsu on a woman to distract Jiraiya so that he could kidnap Naruto (of course, he doesn't actually want to do this). So, what if Jiraiya never saw through Itachi's trick, or saw through it too late? What would Itachi do? Pretend that Naruto somehow managed to escape him? Moreover, on the off-chance that he didn't see Sasuke/Sasuke failed to find him, what then? So yeah I don't really think it was planned, although by the time Itachi reappeared in Shippuden it might've been.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

so it's a recton of sorts

even-tho not rly

 

[Yoshi]

Itachi's backstory was an asspull. He's a horrible character, though most Naruto characters are.

 

[Kyo]

Well yeah, that's actually a decent way to describe it. A retcon. The bit with Sasuke's memory failing in particular is quite telling. The fact that the story just glosses over (read: ignores) the fact that Itachi must have also killed Uchihas who weren't really a part of the coup d'etat as well as innocent children is further evidence that Kishi likely didn't plan in advance, as this is the kind of thing you'd want to address if you initially wanted to paint the perpetrator as a good guy.

 

[Itachi]

What would Itachi do? Pretend that Naruto somehow managed to escape him? Moreover, on the off-chance that he didn't see Sasuke/Sasuke failed to find him, what then? So yeah I don't really think it was planned, although by the time Itachi reappeared in Shippuden it might've been.

Itachi didn't care about Naruto personally at the time. He had already done a similar level of atrocities with the Akatsuki.

 

[Epicnessbeyond]

Itachi's backstory was an asspull. He's a horrible character, though most Naruto characters are.

Go jump off a cliff.

 

[Kyo]

What would Itachi do? Pretend that Naruto somehow managed to escape him? Moreover, on the off-chance that he didn't see Sasuke/Sasuke failed to find him, what then? So yeah I don't really think it was planned, although by the time Itachi reappeared in Shippuden it might've been.

Itachi didn't care about Naruto personally at the time. He had already done a similar level of atrocities with the Akatsuki.

Idk, he seemed to have an interest in Naruto the next time he saw him and I dunno when else that would've come about. It may not be an outright inconsistency but an oddity at least from where I'm sitting.

 

[Itachi]

What would Itachi do? Pretend that Naruto somehow managed to escape him? Moreover, on the off-chance that he didn't see Sasuke/Sasuke failed to find him, what then? So yeah I don't really think it was planned, although by the time Itachi reappeared in Shippuden it might've been.

Itachi didn't care about Naruto personally at the time. He had already done a similar level of atrocities with the Akatsuki.

Idk, he seemed to have an interest in Naruto the next time he saw him and I dunno when else that would've come about. It may not be an outright inconsistency but an oddity at least from where I'm sitting.

The next time he knew that Naruto tried to chase Sasuke. Before there wasn't any way for him to know about the relationship (I think).

 

[Papasmurf]

He probably knew that Kakashi had been teaching them both for what it's worth

 

[Kyo]

Yeah, I believe he knows about their friendship, if not the full extent of it, seeing as how he doesn't make much of an effort to find Sasuke despite that being his intention. I can concede that point either way, I still don't think that reveal was planned, at least not that far in advance.

 

[Doctor Havoc]

Doubt it. Kishi pulled in the whole "Sasuke forgot that he saw Itachi turn around and cry" bit out of nowhere for example.

Also, Itachi only went to Konoha to check on Sasuke or something, but there are issues with this idea. First, he has to go under the guise that he's looking the Nine Tails, which he does. Second, he casts a genjutsu on a woman to distract Jiraiya so that he could kidnap Naruto (of course, he doesn't actually want to do this). So, what if Jiraiya never saw through Itachi's trick, or saw through it too late? What would Itachi do? Pretend that Naruto somehow managed to escape him? Moreover, on the off-chance that he didn't see Sasuke/Sasuke failed to find him, what then? So yeah I don't really think it was planned, although by the time Itachi reappeared in Shippuden it might've been.

ur wrong kyo on the first part about sasuke not realizing tachi crying bit
when in such a emotional state the brain can alter memories and such, not a asspull or not a total one

 

[Kyo]

I don't mean to say that that specific event is unrealistic, more that there was never any kind of vague hint at all that Itachi felt sad like that until that reveal. It's not even necessarily that bad, but yeah I doubt Kishi meant for it to happen that way initially is my point.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

when in such a emotional state the brain can alter memories and such, not a asspull or not a total one

That can happen, but it needed to be foreshadowed. It's not unrealistic, but it's not proper storytelling.

If I were to do it, I would have a sequence where Sasuke thinks back to the night, perhaps as some kind of nightmare. The sequence would seem a bit off, and afterwards, he might think to himself "something is missing", and over the course of the story, there'd be a few more sequences where he'd get closer to the truth, but he'd only realize it after Itachi had been killed.

 

[Super Saiyan Overlord1007]

I don't think he was bad. I think fit more along the lines of a tragic villain. I have A LOT of catching up to do with Naruto. The last chapter I read was when Sasuke defeated Danzo and Kakashi showed up to fight him. But I thought Itachi only murdered his people on orders of Konoha and he's about to break down before killing his parents. He only spared Sasuke because he couldn't find it in his heart to kill him. He didn't necessarily want to capture Naruto but I will admit the whole thing with him being a spy or something like that and good does seem like an asspull, more so than Sasuke falling in love with Sakura after he tried to kill her a few times.

 

[Nèro]

No. Kishimoto ruined it.