What does Daimao say here?

[Diamond Ryan]

I suspect that this translation is full of inaccuracies, so I was wondering if anyone who has their hands on the manga could tell me what Daimao actually says.

 

[Papasmurf]

He says "That's right. Idiots like these won't learn unless they die" or something to that effect.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Thanks. I thought that if this translation was correct, then it would make Drum a lot higher than most people think.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Here's the Viz translation of the page:

Tien: "Run, Goku!!! Run away now!!!"
Drum: "Forget it. There's no way you're getting away with knocking me down."
Daimao: "That's right. Kill both of the fools!"

 

[withheldforprivacy]

The ''you'll be dead in seconds'' is a classic villains' statement in dragonball, not to be taken seriously for power levels.

 

[ahill]

This at least proves Drum >> Goku (post Tambourine). This also would make Drum stronger than Mutaito. Is this accurate?

 

[Diamond Ryan]

This at least proves Drum >> Goku (post Tambourine). This also would make Drum stronger than Mutaito. Is this accurate?

It's not accurate, Papasmurf and Evil Vegeta posted the translations.

The ''you'll be dead in seconds'' is a classic villains' statement in dragonball, not to be taken seriously for power levels.

I don't see why that would be the case. It is simply the villian making a comparison between powers.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

The ''you'll be dead in seconds'' is a classic villains' statement in dragonball, not to be taken seriously for power levels.

I don't see why that would be the case. It is simply the villian making a comparison between powers.

-FP Young Piccolo expected to one shot Goku
-100% Freeza thought he could beat SSJ Goku in 30 seconds
-Suppressed Perfect Cell expected to win in seconds against MSSJ Gohan, whom he had acknowledged as stronger than the person who had
just put up a good fight against him

 

[ahill]

@ryan1227 - I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the translations. I was questioning if Drum >> Mutaito is accurate or not.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

@ahill1 Assuming pre water Goku, Piccolo Daimao was shocked when Goku overtook him and knocked him to the ground, thinking such a feat was an impossibility for a human. It is safe to say Old Piccolo Daimao (Initial) > Mutaito. He was later confident that Drum would be able to kill Goku, based of his performance against him. I think Drum >> Mutaito is possible, and the gap is even bigger if you believe Goku didn't get an increase after the 22nd Budokai.

@withheldforprivacy -Full Power Daimao also managed to push back Goku with a wave of his hand. There's also this quote:
Chapter: 157, P1.1
Context: still taking about Piccolo's full power
Goku: “I see…this is amazin’ power…He’s got something to brag about.”

I think it is definitely implied Piccolo's suppressed power pales in comparison to his full power.

-Freeza can't sense ki, so he didn't have any idea as to how his Full Power would compare to Goku.

-It is possible that Cell used a higher effort level on Gohan than he did on Goku, then increased his speed when that wasn't enough. Cell also didn't seem to think too highly of Gohan at this point, so it is possible that the ki that Cell sensed at first was Gohan's standing ki, which was only a little bit higher than Goku's fighting ki.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

-It is possible that Cell used a higher effort level on Gohan than he did on Goku, then increased his speed when that wasn't enough. Cell also didn't seem to think too highly of Gohan at this point, so it is possible that the ki that Cell sensed at first was Gohan's standing ki, which was only a little bit higher than Goku's fighting ki.

So, for Cell to think he could one shot an opponent higher than Goku, you think he greatly increased his effort right off the bat?
Something like...

MSSJ Goku- 100
PC (vs Goku)- 110
MSSJ Gohan (standing ki)- 105
PC (post senzu)- 150
MSSJ Gohan (true power)- 175
PC (speed increase)- 180

 

[Diamond Ryan]

-It is possible that Cell used a higher effort level on Gohan than he did on Goku, then increased his speed when that wasn't enough. Cell also didn't seem to think too highly of Gohan at this point, so it is possible that the ki that Cell sensed at first was Gohan's standing ki, which was only a little bit higher than Goku's fighting ki.

So, for Cell to think he could one shot an opponent higher than Goku, you think he greatly increased his effort right off the bat?
Something like...

MSSJ Goku- 100
PC (vs Goku)- 110
MSSJ Gohan (standing ki)- 105
PC (post senzu)- 150
MSSJ Gohan (true power)- 175
PC (speed increase)- 180

That could work. It is the only thing I can think of that could explain Cell's confidence in defeating Gohan so easily, other than just plain arrogance.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

-It is possible that Cell used a higher effort level on Gohan than he did on Goku, then increased his speed when that wasn't enough. Cell also didn't seem to think too highly of Gohan at this point, so it is possible that the ki that Cell sensed at first was Gohan's standing ki, which was only a little bit higher than Goku's fighting ki.

So, for Cell to think he could one shot an opponent higher than Goku, you think he greatly increased his effort right off the bat?
Something like...

MSSJ Goku- 100
PC (vs Goku)- 110
MSSJ Gohan (standing ki)- 105
PC (post senzu)- 150
MSSJ Gohan (true power)- 175
PC (speed increase)- 180

That could work. It is the only thing I can think of that could explain Cell's confidence in defeating Gohan so easily, other than just plain arrogance.

Dunno, it seems weird. If Cell was willing to just raise his effort and one shot Gohan, why hadn't he one shotted Goku as well? And, if he didn't
one shot Goku because he wanted to enjoy a good fight, why didn't he want to enjoy a good fight with an enemy even stronger than Goku?

 

[Diamond Ryan]

So, for Cell to think he could one shot an opponent higher than Goku, you think he greatly increased his effort right off the bat?
Something like...

MSSJ Goku- 100
PC (vs Goku)- 110
MSSJ Gohan (standing ki)- 105
PC (post senzu)- 150
MSSJ Gohan (true power)- 175
PC (speed increase)- 180

That could work. It is the only thing I can think of that could explain Cell's confidence in defeating Gohan so easily, other than just plain arrogance.

Dunno, it seems weird. If Cell was willing to just raise his effort and one shot Gohan, why hadn't he one shotted Goku as well? And, if he didn't
one shot Goku because he wanted to enjoy a good fight, why didn't he want to enjoy a good fight with an enemy even stronger than Goku?

I guess he specifically wanted to fight Goku, as even after Gohan forced him to increase his speed, he still wanted to fight him. I guess that is just Toriyama's weird writing for you.

 

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