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Let's say that Dr.Gero died along with the rest of the red ribbon army so he never created the Androids or Cell? How would that affect the timeline?
What if Dr.Gero never created the Androids and Cell?
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Theallpowerfulpuipui said:
Are you sure about that? Why did Babidi come to Earth anyway? Has Buu's ball always been on Earth since he got sealed up? Or did Babidi bring it with him? Why is Babidi even on Earth?
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Remember how much power it took to free Buu. Much more than the power of SSJ2 Teen Gohan. I always thought Babidi came to Earth because of the massive powers he knew were on Earth. And I figured he felt these powers during the Cell Games. Remember when Cell first went Perfect his power was felt from very large galactic distances...all the way to New Namek
Even Mecha Freeza and Cold were not felt until they got close to Earth. Also Future Trunks timeline is way after Buu saga and Babidi never showed up in his timeline. There For Babidi must have only shown up because of the incredible powers that were on Earth in the main timeline. Simple Android arc powers are not even close to what he needs to free Buu's seal. He needs Cell Games level Powers. PC and SSJ2 levels. The levels the Z Senshi would be if not for Gero would be pitiful more than likely.
Even Mecha Freeza and Cold were not felt until they got close to Earth. Also Future Trunks timeline is way after Buu saga and Babidi never showed up in his timeline. There For Babidi must have only shown up because of the incredible powers that were on Earth in the main timeline. Simple Android arc powers are not even close to what he needs to free Buu's seal. He needs Cell Games level Powers. PC and SSJ2 levels. The levels the Z Senshi would be if not for Gero would be pitiful more than likely.
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SSJ2 said:
Because everyone's always surprised by everything.
Babidi might not have known how powerful the Z Fighters were, but it did take a lot of energy to free Boo. It took absorbing Super Saiyan 2 Gohan's, and absorbing the power of Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (after being powered up).
The truth is that eventually, Babidi would get the energy he needed to release Boo, but it would take a lot longer. I also wouldn't be surprised if Goku (who would still be alive) would find a way to get to that Super Saiyan 2 level.
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Him and Dabra specifically state there were no powers like the Saiyans when they checked 300 years ago, so that right there is enough to say they weren't expecting powers anywhere close to what the Saiyans displayed...
It's really just bad writing at the end of the day, as they needed an astronomical amount to revive Boo, but they expected regular humans to get them to that level..
It's really just bad writing at the end of the day, as they needed an astronomical amount to revive Boo, but they expected regular humans to get them to that level..
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Why doesn't he show up in the Future Trunks timeline then?SSJ2 said:
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They weren't expecting powers like the one base Vegeta displayed and they (Dabura and Babidi) thought Pui Pui would be enough to dispose of all of them. So it stands a reason they'd also be surprised by the Saiyajins (if they showed up there), most likely. Babidi thought Boo's meter would be overflowing with energy as long as Pui Pui finished his job, which all in all implies Babidi underestimated the amount of energy needed to revive Majin Boo.
So, if Babidi and Dabura ever showed at the main timeline under the circumstances the OP displayed, Boo could probably not have been revived, although Dabura still would have the power to defeat them all.
It's worth noting that Boo and Dabura didn't initially show themselves in Trunks' timeline but they did so later (according to Super) and were defeated by Trunks, Kaioshin and Kibito. I wonder why they didn't show earlier... maybe because, like Vic stated, there weren't enough powerful warriors with the ability to overflow Boo's meter with energy (but which finds problems with their surprise at base Vegeta's power, which Trunks should already possess), or because the interference of Trunks and Cell in the main timeline also changed the age of Babidi's arrival, much like it changed other things like the androids' strength, behavior and so on.
So, if Babidi and Dabura ever showed at the main timeline under the circumstances the OP displayed, Boo could probably not have been revived, although Dabura still would have the power to defeat them all.
It's worth noting that Boo and Dabura didn't initially show themselves in Trunks' timeline but they did so later (according to Super) and were defeated by Trunks, Kaioshin and Kibito. I wonder why they didn't show earlier... maybe because, like Vic stated, there weren't enough powerful warriors with the ability to overflow Boo's meter with energy (but which finds problems with their surprise at base Vegeta's power, which Trunks should already possess), or because the interference of Trunks and Cell in the main timeline also changed the age of Babidi's arrival, much like it changed other things like the androids' strength, behavior and so on.
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ahill1 said:
Or more than likely they did show up but they left, since it's just a wasteland with 2 low tier pre ROAST Super Saiyans ( Gohan and Trunks) around and 2 Androids who don't emit ki. The only reason the Androids were stronger in the main timeline is cause Goku didn't die and Gero was aware of that so made them stronger.
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Babidi had Spopovitch and Yamu of all people collecting energy for him, what makes you think he thought anyone powerful would be around? Even the pre RoSaT Super Saiyans should make Babidi excited considering this...
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Victorious said:
If that were the case, he wouldn't have opted to attack the city (and then consequently confront the Z warriors) with himself as an android and #19, as they are still significantly below the future androids. He was still pretty carefree when Goku was around and about to fight them machines, besides stating Goku has surpassed his expectations, so that explanation falls flat.
The androids' strength wasn't even the only thing changed, their behavior and sadism were as well, and there's not a conceivable explanation for that other than the one given in the series, which is as vague as "Trunks and Cell's interference changed the occurence of the events somehow".
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Goku would die permanently from the Heart Virus. The Z-Warriors would never have a reason to go in the Rosat, thus leading to Dabura killing them all. Doubt he'd let Trunks escape either, since unlike the Artificial Humans, he had someone giving him orders and wasn't doing things purely for sport. There probably wouldn't be enough energy to provide Boo, however, so they likely keep searching other Planets. Whether they do or not, Beerus would probably find a reason to Hakai them and Boo if he's unsealed.
Alternatively, Shin may have Kibito transport the Saiyans and Piccolo to the Kaioshinkai to train and try removing the Z-Sword. It would probably take them years to accomplish removing the sword, however, by which time either Dabura would've ravaged Earth completely or Beerus would've woken up, destroyed Babidi and Dabura and then go back to sleep when realising he can't find the Super Saiyan God.
Alternatively, Shin may have Kibito transport the Saiyans and Piccolo to the Kaioshinkai to train and try removing the Z-Sword. It would probably take them years to accomplish removing the sword, however, by which time either Dabura would've ravaged Earth completely or Beerus would've woken up, destroyed Babidi and Dabura and then go back to sleep when realising he can't find the Super Saiyan God.
