What’s the biggest possible gap between SSJ and SSJB?

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So SSJB at less than 10% rivals SSJ… but how much lower than 10% can it be? 8%? 5? 2?
 

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The lowest it can be is 9% for me.
 

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The thing is, that U6 implication is entirely thrown out in the Zamasu arc. There's absolutely no way to fit all of the gaps and strength increases into what the U6 tournament implies about Blue and its relative strength to regular Super Saiyan.
 

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Why's that?
Fused Zamasu = CSSJB Goku > Fused Zamasu (suppressed) > SSJB Vegeta (ROAST) > SSJG Vegeta ~ SSJR Black > SSJ Black (2nd zenkai) > SSJ Black (zenkai) > SSJB Vegeta > SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Black > Black > SSJ3 Goku = SSJ2 Trunks

How do you make that work if Blue's full power is around 10x Super Saiyan? Huh?!
 

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Fused Zamasu = CSSJB Goku > Fused Zamasu (suppressed) > SSJB Vegeta (ROAST) > SSJG Vegeta ~ SSJR Black > SSJ Black (2nd zenkai) > SSJ Black (zenkai) > SSJB Vegeta > SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Black > Black > SSJ3 Goku = SSJ2 Trunks

How do you make that work if Blue's full power is around 10x Super Saiyan? Huh?!
Son Goku (Base): 2,500
SSJ: 10,000
SSJ2: 15,000
SSJ3: 30,000
SSJG: 60,000
SSJB: 120,000 (only capable of outputting this much in 1 short burst)
CSSJB: 240,000

Vegeta (Base): 2,500
SSJ: 10,000
SSJ2: 40,000
SSJG: 60,000
SSJB: 120,000 (outputting far less against SSJ Black due to poor handling of the form. Post RoSaT can utilize 100% of SSJB in bursts)

Future Trunks (Base): 2,600
SSJ2: 15,600
MSSJ2: 30,000

Black (Base): 30,000
SSJ: 35,000
First Zenkai (SSJ): 46,000
Second Zenkai (SSJ): 50,000
SSJ Rose: 100,000

Zamasu: 20,000

Merged Zamasu: 240,000
 

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Fused Zamasu = CSSJB Goku > Fused Zamasu (suppressed) > SSJB Vegeta (ROAST) > SSJG Vegeta ~ SSJR Black > SSJ Black (2nd zenkai) > SSJ Black (zenkai) > SSJB Vegeta > SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Black > Black > SSJ3 Goku = SSJ2 Trunks

How do you make that work if Blue's full power is around 10x Super Saiyan? Huh?!
1% power increases, think of it like the difference between instant transmission and instanter transmission :troll
 

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Fused Zamasu = CSSJB Goku > Fused Zamasu (suppressed) > SSJB Vegeta (ROAST) > SSJG Vegeta ~ SSJR Black > SSJ Black (2nd zenkai) > SSJ Black (zenkai) > SSJB Vegeta > SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Black > Black > SSJ3 Goku = SSJ2 Trunks

How do you make that work if Blue's full power is around 10x Super Saiyan? Huh?!

Well the SEG multipliers probably get thrown out of the window here, but Daizenshuu 7 does say SSJ is potential based so who cares. The statement Whis made was probably about normal SSJB since PSSJB power was out of their reach.

Also, Post Rosat SSJB Vegeta = Pre Rosat SSJB Vegeta. Goku explicitly says the only difference is. Plus Goku Black is mocking SSJG Vegeta. Doesn’t sound like he’s much stronger if at all.


The lowest it can be is 9% for me.

Why do you even have it as a perfect 10% when Whis says it’s less than that:giraffe

Can probably go as low as 3% for me. What else would Whis say “less than 1/33?” might as well say the actual percentage.

2% is out because he could say “1/50” I think. I have SSJ at 6.66% of SSJB.
 

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At that magnitude of power it would be absurd to use 10 as the benchmark if it wasn’t even close to 10. Gtfo with that nonsense.
 

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Somebody skipped math class.
 
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