Why Daiz 3m/150m numbers are bull

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-As soon as Freeza transforms, he declares his power is now over 1m, obviously referring to his current
suppression, not his form's max.
-When he powers up, Piccolo says ''his power just jumped astoundingly''. The word ''just'' indicates he's referring
to something that happened the moment before, so he means Freeza's last power up, not the whole proccess
from his 1st form to his powered up 2nd form. The word ''astoundingly'' indicates it can't be just 1.2x a boost or
so, but something huge. Therefore, Powered Up 2nd Form Freeza is at least 1.5 And that is not even his 2nd
form's max!
-Weighted Piccolo is stated to be above Powered Up 2nd Form Freeza, so, going by the 1.25x boost for the
weights' removal, the obvious numbers are...
Weighted Piccolo: 1.6m
FP 2nd Form Freeza: 1.8m
Unweighted Piccolo: 2m
-3rd Form Freeza beat Piccolo to a point he could barely fight anymore, using just his fingertips! With 1.33x a gap,
3x KK Goku was fighting Vegeta like there was no tomorrow, yet, even after a long fight, Vegeta could go on.
For Piccolo to end up in such a condition after Freeza had used just his fingertips, the gap must be even greater.
3rd Form Freeza: 3m
-Based on Freeza's statement about how great a difference each transformation makes and everybody's reaction
when he went 4th form, we have...
4th Form Freeza (initial): 4m
-Goku deflected a barrage of death beams from Initial 4th Form Freeza. This godlike feat reminds of SSJ
Goku dodging a barrage of death beams from 50% Freeza and indicates 2x a gap.
 

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Congratulations. Not a single person who believes in the 3,000,000 and 150,000,000 battle powers have been convinced otherwise.

(Not saying I follow the Daizenshuu's numbers, just pointing out that guidebook homers are too stubborn to be convinced otherwise by a post they've probably seen dozens of times.)
 

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I believe in 215,000,000 for Freeza and 250,000,000 to Goku in manga, and that's my Base Saiyans << Freeza list.
 

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When Piccolo said Freeza's ki had greatly increased, Freeza still did not power up in his 2nd form.


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He only powered up in the next chapter.


The 3,000,000 would be impossible if you believe Goku was not using his full power in base until he fought Freeza (w/o hands). Otherwise, they're still workable (a bit small, but still workable IMO).
 

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Then, what was Piccolo referring to? It couldn't be Freeza transforming, because that had happened many pages ago.
 
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