Why was Vegeta surprised by Freeza's battle power reaching 1 million?

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Wouldn't he be familiar with King Cold, whose battle power far eclipses that to the point where he is of use against Super Saiyan Goku?
 

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Maybe Cold didn't make himself known to younger recruits in the Freeza army like Vegeta and Raditz. Cold also likely doesn't walk around at FP all the time.
 

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If he did know about KC being so strong (maybe not), maybe he didn't imagine a single non-oozaru transformation could cause such a jump. It's a doubling of power.

I still think it's silly he nearly immediately demanded Freeza to transform, rather than trying to damage his first form together. It's like every time Vegeta becomes stronger than someone he enters a manic state of sorts and believes nothing can surpass him. Which could explain the 1 million shock too. Maybe if he sat and thought about it he'd know 1 million is possible, but in his hyped up state he doesn't think rationally.
 

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Captain Ginyu doesn't even know about King Cold. King Cold in the original canon should be more of a shadowy figure, not well known by Freeza's men.
 

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Captain Ginyu doesn't even know about King Cold. King Cold in the original canon should be more of a shadowy figure, not well known by Freeza's men.
That's what he was believed to be until DBS Broly and I would agree had Toriyama not retconned it himself. (It may not even technically be a retcon since he never wrote the Daizenshuu which stated Cold was the shadow leader of the Freeza Force)
 

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If he did know about KC being so strong (maybe not), maybe he didn't imagine a single non-oozaru transformation could cause such a jump. It's a doubling of power.

I still think it's silly he nearly immediately demanded Freeza to transform, rather than trying to damage his first form together. It's like every time Vegeta becomes stronger than someone he enters a manic state of sorts and believes nothing can surpass him. Which could explain the 1 million shock too. Maybe if he sat and thought about it he'd know 1 million is possible, but in his hyped up state he doesn't think rationally.
Vegeta thought he was the strongest in the universe when he was still at 18k. 😅
 

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It’s possible Vegeta thought Freeza’s transformation’d be closer to Zarbon’s jump in power.
 

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Scouters weren’t common thing back then, so Cold’s power would be completely unknown to most.

That's what he was believed to be until DBS Broly and I would agree had Toriyama not retconned it himself. (It may not even technically be a retcon since he never wrote the Daizenshuu which stated Cold was the shadow leader of the Freeza Force)

Long ago Cold was the central figure, but when Freeza got old enough (which is before Vegeta was even born) he took a step back.

Did Vegeta know Cold when he and Freeza went to Earth?
 

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Scouters weren’t common thing back then, so Cold’s power would be completely unknown to most.



Long ago Cold was the central figure, but when Freeza got old enough (which is before Vegeta was even born) he took a step back.

Did Vegeta know Cold when he and Freeza went to Earth?
Vegeta never mentioned Cold by name even when he sensed a Ki of similar size to initial Mecha Freeza
 

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Yep, Vegeta has no idea who King Cold is. That retcon AT tried was bunk.
Tbh Vegeta even being the prince of Saiyans forced to submit to the galactic emperor is practically a retcon considering nobody mentioned he was the prince in the Saiyan arc and he seemed to legitimately believe he was the strongest in the universe
 

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Tbh Vegeta even being the prince of Saiyans forced to submit to the galactic emperor is practically a retcon considering nobody mentioned he was the prince in the Saiyan arc and he seemed to legitimately believe he was the strongest in the universe
Agreed.

Man, thank God for the creation of Freeza, right?
 

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Tbh Vegeta even being the prince of Saiyans forced to submit to the galactic emperor is practically a retcon considering nobody mentioned he was the prince in the Saiyan arc and he seemed to legitimately believe he was the strongest in the universe
Maybe Vegeta was being delusional like Burta saying he's the fastest in the universe
 

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do you think Butter > Ginyu in flight speed?
No because Ginyu (while also surpress) was still able to keep up with surpress Goku in the air only saying that he might be faster than him and catch him in a full Nelson while he was distracted.

If he was slower than Burta then he wouldn't be able to even react to Goku in the air.
 

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No because Ginyu (while also surpress) was still able to keep up with surpress Goku in the air only saying that he might be faster than him and catch him in a full Nelson while he was distracted.

If he was slower than Burta then he wouldn't be able to even react to Goku in the air.
That's what I think too. Guess when they say they're the greatest in the universe they conveniently exclude superior officers in their army lol.
 

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Gurd has the fastest flight to power level ratio of all time.
I feel like that was just BS red herring similar to Ginyu-Goku initially saying his body was even faster than his last one.

If I had to rationalize it I guess he's using telekinesis along with bukujutsu to boost his flight speed. I still think it's bullshit tho.
 

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Vegeta didn't know King Cold. He made no mention of the "other huge chi besides Freeza", which he'd have mentioned who it was... There would be no reason to leave that unknown chi in suspense if he knew about King Cold. Even when he watched Trunks killing Freeza, and then, in more detail, killing King Cold, Vegeta made no mention of who he was...

It seems Vegeta just didn't think Freeza would be much above 530,000 until it happened. I had wondered sometimes why the number would surprise Vegeta when he could feel that power, but yeah feeling the power as huge and all still doesn't mean he could tell exactly how much that would be in numbers... Since he was long used to have numbers as a measuring to knowing strength, knowing for a fact it was > 1,000,000 would make sense to draw a :0 for a panel too.
 

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Yeah I think AT just forgot that King Cold was unknown to Vegeta during the Z portion of the manga. Wouldn't be the first time he forgot shit in recent media, he also forgot Bardock's original outfit in the exact same sequence which he depicted in the manga, when he wrote the Broly movie.
 

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