That's what he was believed to be until DBS Broly and I would agree had Toriyama not retconned it himself. (It may not even technically be a retcon since he never wrote the Daizenshuu which stated Cold was the shadow leader of the Freeza Force)Captain Ginyu doesn't even know about King Cold. King Cold in the original canon should be more of a shadowy figure, not well known by Freeza's men.
Vegeta thought he was the strongest in the universe when he was still at 18k.If he did know about KC being so strong (maybe not), maybe he didn't imagine a single non-oozaru transformation could cause such a jump. It's a doubling of power.
I still think it's silly he nearly immediately demanded Freeza to transform, rather than trying to damage his first form together. It's like every time Vegeta becomes stronger than someone he enters a manic state of sorts and believes nothing can surpass him. Which could explain the 1 million shock too. Maybe if he sat and thought about it he'd know 1 million is possible, but in his hyped up state he doesn't think rationally.
That's what he was believed to be until DBS Broly and I would agree had Toriyama not retconned it himself. (It may not even technically be a retcon since he never wrote the Daizenshuu which stated Cold was the shadow leader of the Freeza Force)
Vegeta never mentioned Cold by name even when he sensed a Ki of similar size to initial Mecha FreezaScouters weren’t common thing back then, so Cold’s power would be completely unknown to most.
Long ago Cold was the central figure, but when Freeza got old enough (which is before Vegeta was even born) he took a step back.
Did Vegeta know Cold when he and Freeza went to Earth?
Yep, Vegeta has no idea who King Cold is. That retcon AT tried was bunk.Vegeta never mentioned Cold by name even when he sensed a Ki of similar size to initial Mecha Freeza
Tbh Vegeta even being the prince of Saiyans forced to submit to the galactic emperor is practically a retcon considering nobody mentioned he was the prince in the Saiyan arc and he seemed to legitimately believe he was the strongest in the universeYep, Vegeta has no idea who King Cold is. That retcon AT tried was bunk.
Agreed.Tbh Vegeta even being the prince of Saiyans forced to submit to the galactic emperor is practically a retcon considering nobody mentioned he was the prince in the Saiyan arc and he seemed to legitimately believe he was the strongest in the universe
Maybe Vegeta was being delusional like Burta saying he's the fastest in the universeTbh Vegeta even being the prince of Saiyans forced to submit to the galactic emperor is practically a retcon considering nobody mentioned he was the prince in the Saiyan arc and he seemed to legitimately believe he was the strongest in the universe
do you think Butter > Ginyu in flight speed?Maybe Vegeta was being delusional like Burta saying he's the fastest in the universe
No because Ginyu (while also surpress) was still able to keep up with surpress Goku in the air only saying that he might be faster than him and catch him in a full Nelson while he was distracted.do you think Butter > Ginyu in flight speed?
That's what I think too. Guess when they say they're the greatest in the universe they conveniently exclude superior officers in their army lol.No because Ginyu (while also surpress) was still able to keep up with surpress Goku in the air only saying that he might be faster than him and catch him in a full Nelson while he was distracted.
If he was slower than Burta then he wouldn't be able to even react to Goku in the air.
Gurd has the fastest flight to power level ratio of all time.do you think Butter > Ginyu in flight speed?
I feel like that was just BS red herring similar to Ginyu-Goku initially saying his body was even faster than his last one.Gurd has the fastest flight to power level ratio of all time.