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MULTIPLIERS
SSJ: 50
ASSJ: 1.66
USSJ: 2
SSJ2: 2
SSJ3: 4
Cell's buffed form: 1.33
Cell's power weighted form: 1.5
Fusion dance: 100x weakest PL
Potara: 700x weakest PL

POST KAI

Piccolo
-weighted: 250.000
-unweighted: 300.000

Yamcha: 50.000

Tenshinhan: 80.000

Chaozu: 10.000


FREEZA SAGA

Freeza 1st form: 530.000

Vegeta: 480.000

Krillin: 75.000 and rising

Gohan
-normal: 200.000 and rising
-enraged: 1.000.000

Freeza 2nd form
-initial: 1.000.000
-powered up: 1.200.000
-max: 1.400.000

Piccolo
-weighted: 1.250.000
-unweighted: 1.500.000

Freeza 3rd form: 2.000.000

Gohan (post zenkai)
-normal: 300.000
-enraged: 1.500.000
-full power blast: 2.000.000

Vegeta (post zenkai): 2.400.000

Freeza 4th form
-initial: 2.400.000
-speed up: 3.200.000
-no hands: 6.400.000
-50%: 70.000.000
-100%: 140.000.000
-battle worn: 120.000.000

Goku
-base: 3.000.000
-2x kaioken: 6.000.000
-10x kaioken: 30.000.000
-20x kaioken: 60.000.000
-20x kaioken/ khh: 75.000.000
-ssj: 150.000.000


HUMANS REVIVED

Krillin: 150.000

Yamcha: 60.000

Tenshinhan: 120.000

Chaozu: 13.500


MECHA FREEZA SAGA

Vegeta: 2.700.000

Piccolo: 2.500.000

Gohan: 300.000

Krillin: 150.000

Yamcha: 60.000

Tenshinhan: 150.000

Chaozu: 15.000

Mecha Freeza
-initial: 40.000.000
-unseen max: 160.000.000

King Cold
-initial: 40.000.000
-unseen max: 120.000.000

Trunks
-base: 2.400.000
-ssj: 120.000.000

Goku
-base: 3.000.000
-ssj: 150.000.000


LONE WARRIOR

Gohan (two arms)
-base: 1.800.000
-ssj: 90.000.000

Gohan (one arm)
-base: 2.250.000
-ssj: 112.500.000

Trunks (teen)
-base: 1.600.000
-ssj: 80.000.000

Seventeen
-40%: 100.000.000
-max: 250.000.000

Eighteen: 240.000.000


ANDROIDS SAGA

Yamcha: 600.000

Krillin: 1.500.000

Tenshinhan: 1.500.000

Gohan: 3.200.000

Nineteen
-initial: 90.000.000
-post Goku: 135.000.000

Gero
-initial: 95.000.000
-post energy: 100.000.000

Goku
-base: 3.500.000
-ssj: 175.000.000
-ssj sick: 115.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 3.600.000
-ssj: 180.000.000

Piccolo: 125.000.000

Trunks
-base: 3.300.000
-ssj: 165.000.000

Eighteen: 240.000.000

Seventeen: 250.000.000

Ginger Cell: 195.000.000

Piccolo (post kami)
-weighted: 225.000.000
-unweighted: 250.000.000

Humans Cell: 400.000.000

Sixteen: 400.000.000

Semi Cell
-initial: 600.000.000
-max: 750.000.000

Vegeta (post room)
-base: 12.000.000
-ssj: 600.000.000
-assj: 1.000.000.000

Trunks (post room)
-base: 11.400.000
-ssj: 570.000.000
-assj: 950.000.000
-ussj: 1.900.000.000

Perfect Cell
-initial: 900.000.000
-warm up: 1.500.000.000
-buffed: 2.000.000.000


IN SPIRIT ROOM

Goku
-base: 4.200.000
-ssj: 210.000.000
-assj: 350.000.000
-ussj: 700.000.000

Gohan
-base: 4.000.000
-ssj: 200.000.000


CELL GAMES

Goku
-base: 70.000.000
-ssj warm up: 1.400.000.000
-ssj 50%: 1.750.000.000
-ssj max: 3.500.000.000

Cell Jrs: 2.800.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 52.000.000
-ssj: 2.600.000.000

Trunks
-base: 50.000.000
-ssj: 2.500.000.000

Piccolo: 1.600.000.000

Perfect Cell
-warm up: 1.500.000.000
-powered up: 4.000.000.000
-max: 6.000.000.000
-battle worn: 4.500.000.000
-power weighted: 6.750.000.000
-post zenkai: 7.500.000.000

Gohan
-base: 80.000.000
-ssj: 4.000.000.000
-ssj2: 8.000.000.000

Note: Piccolo and humans remain at the same PLs from here on.


BUU SAGA

Gohan
-base: 60.000.000
-ssj: 3.000.000.000
-ssj2: 6.000.000.000

Goten
-base: 55.000.000
-ssj: 2.750.000.000

Trunks
-base: 60.000.000
-ssj: 3.000.000.000

Kibito: 10.000.000

Kaioshin: 2.400.000.000

Pocus: 50.000.000

Yakon: 100.000.000

Dabura: 6.000.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 75.000.000
-ssj: 3.750.000.000
-ssj2: 7.500.000.000
-majin: 10.000.000.000

Goku
-base: 100.000.000
-ssj: 5.000.000.000
-ssj2: 10.000.000.000
-ssj3: 40.000.000.000

Fat Buu
-initial: 8.000.000.000
-1st power up (Gohan and Dabura): 12.000.000.000
-2nd power up (Vegeta): 15.000.000.000
-max (pre split): 28.000.000.000

Gohan (post sword)
-base: 125.000.000
-ssj: 6.250.000.000
-ssj2: 12.500.000.000

Gotenks
-base: 5.500.000.000
-ssj: 8.250.000.000

Good Buu: 12.000.000.000

Evil Buu: 16.000.000.000

Super Buu: 28.000.000.000

Goten (post room)
-base: 80.000.000
-ssj: 4.000.000.000

Trunks (post room)
-base: 80.000.000
-ssj: 4.000.000.000

Gotenks (post room)
-base: 8.000.000.000
-ssj: 12.000.000.000
-ssj3: 30.000.000.000

Ultimate Gohan: 38.000.000.000

Buutenks: 59.600.000.000

Kibitoshin: 7.000.000.000

Buuccolo: 29.760.000.000

Buuhan: 67.760.000.000

Vegerrot
-base: 70.000.000.000
-ssj: 105.000.000.000

Buffed Buu: 42.000.000.000

Kid Buu: 40.000.000.000

Note: Goku and Vegeta remain at the same PLs until they get their asspulled boosts at the next saga.


BATTLE OF GODS

Note: The kids are the only ones who have grown stronger, because their bodies are growing to adulthood.

Goten
-base: 100.000.000
-ssj: 5.000.000.000

Trunks
-base: 100.000.000
-ssj: 5.000.000.000

Gotenks
-base: 10.000.000.000
-ssj: 15.000.000.000

Vegeta (asspulled boost): 60.000.000.000

Goku
-ssj god 80%: 72.000.000.000
-ssj god max: 90.000.000.000
-post god: 80.000.000.000
-post god/ssj: 100.000.000.000

Beerus
-initial: 60.000.000.000
-powered up: 75.000.000.000
-70%: 105.000.000.000
-unseen max: 150.000.000.000

Whiss: 225.000.000.000


REVIVAL OF FREEZA

Goku
-base: 90.000.000.000
-blue ssj: 112.500.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 90.000.000.000
-blue ssj: 112.500.000.000

Freeza
-4th form: 90.000.000.000
-5th form: 120.000.000.000

Beerus: 150.000.000.000

Whiss: 225.000.000.000


UBB SAGA

Goten
-base: 120.000.000
-ssj: 6.000.000.000

Trunks
-base: 120.000.000
-ssj: 6.000.000.000

Pan: 7.200.000.000

Ubb: 40.000.000.000

Goku
-base: 120.000.000.000
-blue ssj: 160.000.000.000

Vegeta
-base: 120.000.000.000
-blue ssj: 160.000.000.000
 

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a) Wtf is this 'ASSJ: 1.66' What a weird multiplier.
b) Your multipliers go against what the story tells us.
c) Vegeta is too close to Freeza 1rst form.
d) Gohan should be at 900 to Frieza's 1 million.
e) Frieza 2nd form should be over 1 million.
f) Piccolo should be stronger than Frieza 2nd form.
g) Gohan is too close to 3rd Form Freeza
h) No hands? xD
i) Nice cop-out to ignore the power-level the Daizenshuu gives Freeza.
j) Kaio-Kenx20 & the Kamehameha are the same in power. He uses the Kamehameha to channel the energy through.
k) Gohan kept his rage powers from Namek
l) Mecha Freeza is unsure about whether or not he can defeat Goku on his own. He should be slightly weaker.
m) Cold is too weak. He's considered helpful against Goku Ssj.
n) Hmm... Trunks so weeak.
o) Didn't Future Gohan lose to 40% Android 17?
p) Goku (Cell Games) used half his power on Korins tower, yet his warming up power surprises everyone
q) Gohan was a SSj2 against Dabura
r) Goku Base Post should be weaker than his SSj3 self. He's still using normal Chi. He still has limits.
s) Goku didn't surpass his SSJG self in only Super Saiyan.

Better... but not the greatest.
 

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Tosh said:
a) Wtf is this 'ASSJ: 1.66' What a weird multiplier.
b) Your multipliers go against what the story tells us.
c) Vegeta is too close to Freeza 1rst form.
d) Gohan should be at 900 to Frieza's 1 million.
e) Frieza 2nd form should be over 1 million.
f) Piccolo should be stronger than Frieza 2nd form.
g) Gohan is too close to 3rd Form Freeza
h) No hands? xD
i) Nice cop-out to ignore the power-level the Daizenshuu gives Freeza.
j) Kaio-Kenx20 & the Kamehameha are the same in power. He uses the Kamehameha to channel the energy through.
k) Gohan kept his rage powers from Namek
l) Mecha Freeza is unsure about whether or not he can defeat Goku on his own. He should be slightly weaker.
m) Cold is too weak. He's considered helpful against Goku Ssj.
n) Hmm... Trunks so weeak.
o) Didn't Future Gohan lose to 40% Android 17?
p) Goku (Cell Games) used half his power on Korins tower, yet his warming up power surprises everyone
q) Gohan was a SSj2 against Dabura
r) Goku Base Post should be weaker than his SSj3 self. He's still using normal Chi. He still has limits.
s) Goku didn't surpass his SSJG self in only Super Saiyan.

Better... but not the greatest.

a. Close enough to the official 1.5x
b. WTF? I used almost all the official ones.
c. Whatever, we've discussed this, we agree to disagreeing.
d. Maybe, but why not equals? This is not the first time that, in a fight of equals, someone recovers after a series of hits (Goku vs Tenshinhan,
Goku vs Piccolo Jr)
e. You mean 1.060.000? Well, i rounded it.
f. I'll lower Freeza to 1.4m
g. You mean his blast?
h. You know, when they were about to get serious and Freeza said ''i won't be using my hands''.
i. I think it's reasonable.
j. Same as above
k. Lol, weren't you the one who was whining against it? Anyway, in this particular list, since i wanted to include his Daiz 200.000 power
for his ''non enraged'' mode, i went against my theory of Gohan keeping his rage boosts.
l. He said ''i can probably do it''. To me, this sounds slightly stronger.
m. I'll give him an unseen max too.
n. We've already discussed this. To keep Base<Freeza, i went with Yardrat Goku=Namek Goku.
o. You mean 2 Armed Gohan?
p. No, it was only when Goku got serious at Cell Games that they got surprised.
q. I have him SSJ2. If you think he was SSJ1, just cut the power i gave Dabura in half.
r. You mean Goku post god? He was still even with Beerus, it was stated he kept most of god power.
s. Same as above.
 

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e. You mean 1.060.000? Well, i rounded it.
He said he's 'over' 1 million.

g. You mean his blast?
Yes.

l. He said ''i can probably do it''. To me, this sounds slightly stronger.
Organic Freeza can't sense Chi.

His statement is unreliable.

He needs King Cold.

r. You mean Goku post god? He was still even with Beerus, it was stated he kept most of god power.
Goku Base did nothing impressive.

Whiss contradicts the statement by saying he's enormously weaker using a metaphorical speech.
 

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g. i think the blast was even with 3rd Form Freeza
r. Wha... Beerus was the one who stated Goku kept most of the god power post reverting to base.
 

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Goku's Base Post God doesn't comparable to God tier power, confirmed by someone stronger, better trained, more powerful and the teacher to Beerus. His statement is more reliable.

Goku is still hindered by his bodies limits. Super is also following EOZ, which confirms my logic.
 

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Official ASSj multiplier is 1.5x??? Where

and what "extra manga sources"are you talking about
 

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Hmm, I typically go with:

SSj = 50x Base
SSjG2 = 62.5x Base
SSjG3 = 125x Base
 
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