UI Goku (ToP) + Jiren (Beyond Limits) vs Gogeta SSJ (Super Broly Movie)?

[SIAD]

Found it

So that would mean that Beerus after the ToP began to train in secret and now he is hundreds of times stronger even than Quitela?

 

[Papasmurf]

Tfw Beerus' retcon power is officially explained through actual fucking dialogue

 

[GSM123]

So that would mean that Beerus after the ToP began to train in secret and now he is hundreds of times stronger even than Quitela?

I wouldn’t say train in secret. More like his power is always growing.

 

[Papasmurf]

I wouldn’t say train in secret. More like his power is always growing.

So how does Whis stay ahead of him? Has he mastered Roshi's art of being as strong as he wants to be?

 

[SSJ2]

Whis secretly steals the Dragon Balls from some obscure planet every so often to ask for Beerus to be the strongest in the universe and for himself to be 1.5x stronger than that

 

[GSM123]

So how does Whis stay ahead of him? Has he mastered Roshi's art of being as strong as he wants to be?

The 1.5x line is probably bullshit

 

[SIAD]

Then:

Beerus (Current) >> Gas> Granolah > MI Vegeta >> UI Goku (Current) > UI Goku (Moro)> Gogeta PSSJB >> Moro (OG73-I) > Broly LSSJ = Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu)> = Beerus (ToP) >= Quitela > Rumoosh > Mosco >>>>>> Beerus (In the past) >= Champa > Geen > = Gogeta SSJ (Arc Broly) > = Broly SSJ > = Liquir = Arak = Iwan>= Helles > UI Goku (ToP) > Jiren (Beyond Limits) > Jiren (FP) > Belmod > Sidra.

Whis must be = 1.5x Beerus (Peak).

What do you think?

 

[GSM123]

I think Moro (OG73I) >>> SSJB Gogeta (Broly)

What is the multiplier of UI over UI Sign?

 

[SIAD]

I think Moro (OG73I) >>> SSJB Gogeta (Broly)

What is the multiplier of UI over UI Sign?

I don't think there is a fixed multiplier between the UI over the Sing UI, since there didn't seem to be too big a difference in the ToP, whereas in the Arc de Moro it seemed to be too big.