How strong was Assistant Black?

[SSJ2]

He tells Goku that it won't go as easily as before. Was this pure delusion considering he just recognized the defeat of the Red Ribbon Army?

 

[Papasmurf]

Delusion.

 

[Hector]

He tells Goku that it won't go as easily as before. Was this pure delusion considering he just recognized the defeat of the Red Ribbon Army?

In my books, he's at 80% of the Devil's power.

 

[Animelover5487]

Maybe. It's not like Black being stronger than Blue would have made any difference against Post Korin Goku.

 

[Yoshi]

Maybe. It's not like Black being stronger than Blue would have made any difference against Post Korin Goku.

But was he stronger than Blue?

 

[Animelover5487]

But was he stronger than Blue?

He said he wouldn't be defeated as easily as the rest of the army and he knew about Blue's defeat at Goku's hands.

 

[Papasmurf]

He was clearly weaker than Tao and acted like he was suddenly hot shit and wouldn't go down easily against Goku. He was delusional as hell.

 

[Animelover5487]

He was clearly weaker than Tao and acted like he was suddenly hot shit and wouldn't go down easily against Goku. He was delusional as hell.

I don't think he was really including Tao when he made that statement. Tao wasn't fighting remotely seriously against Blue and effortlessly killed him with his tongue so Black wouldn't have anyway of knowing how strong Tao was.

 

[Papasmurf]

I don't think he was really including Tao when he made that statement. Tao wasn't fighting remotely seriously against Blue and effortlessly killed him with his tongue so Black wouldn't have anyway of knowing how strong Tao was.

He still saw Tao's pillar throwing feat

 

[Power Level Guy]

In my books, he's at 80% of the Devil's power.

Not a bad placement, this is generally where I have him too.

Black is delusional, but he is quite strong. He can one shot Blue.

 

[Cenas bald spot]

He was clearly weaker than Tao and acted like he was suddenly hot shit and wouldn't go down easily against Goku. He was delusional as hell.

Agreed.
He’s featless without wearing the mech suite.
He’s getting one shotted by Tao and likely gets paralyzed by Blue.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Agreed.
He’s featless without wearing the mech suite.

I wouldn't go this far. He's willing to challenge Goku despite him knowing how easily Tao dispatched of Blue.

Remember, Tao was significantly suppressed when he fought Blue.

So Black probably thinks he has somewhat of a chance against a Suppressed Tao.

He’s getting one shotted by Tao and likely gets paralyzed by Blue.

There's no evidence of this. The evidence actually suggests the opposite. Despite seeing Blue get easily manhandled, he thought he might have somewhat of a chance.

If Black isn't easily defeating Blue, this line of rationality cannot work.

Suppressed Tao >> Black >> Blue

 

[Cenas bald spot]

It’s delusion, similar to how 2nd form Cell still thought he could beat Super Vegeta.

Bro was shitting bricks after witnessing Blue get one shotted, he ain’t doing that without his mech.
He doesn’t have an answer to paralysis either, it worked on Goku and Roshi, we can assume it’ll work just as well on Black.

 

[Power Level Guy]

It’s delusion, similar to how 2nd form Cell still thought he could beat Super Vegeta.

What evidence do you have that it's pure delusion? Why can't he just be underestimating Goku as the story indicates?

Bro was shitting bricks after witnessing Blue get one shotted, he ain’t doing that without his mech.

100%. I get that. But why can't you see the next step. Why can't it be this.

Premise 1: Black acknowledges Tao > Black
Premise 2: Black indicates Black > Blue

Like, it feels like you aren't realizing that just because Tao easily manhandled Blue, doesn't mean Black can't also defeat Blue easily either.

Black cannot defeat Blue AS EASILY as Tao can, but he can still defeat Blue easily.

These things do not contradict each other.

We can have what the story indicates which is this.

Premise 1: Tao >> Blue
Premise 2: Tao > Black
Premise 3: Black > Blue

Conclusion: Tao > Black > Blue

As the story spoonfeeds to us. Tao easily defeating Blue doesn't somehow contradict the idea that Black can't easily beat him either. We just know Tao can do it much easier than Black can.

He doesn’t have an answer to paralysis either, it worked on Goku and Roshi, we can assume it’ll work just as well on Black.

Nothing wrong with this line of thinking. Blue's paralysis is legit goated. Bro is a problem. He can paralyze you and then without too much effort maintain it. It's honestly one of the best techniques in Dragon Ball ever.

That being said, the question OP is asking is how strong is Black. Blue may indeed defeat Black from help with his paralysis, but paralysis wouldn't negate the strength advantage Black seemingly possesses over Blue.