Is the gap between FP Young Piccolo and Initial Goku (post water) a one-shot gap?

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This is a great topic.

From what I can see, Shenron doesn’t have the ability to change the percentage of power you are at. He can’t force you to go up a level or two.

Young PD should be around 40% of his power, so going full power should logically be a tremendous power-up.

Goku nearly was wind chopped like Yamcha and Piccolo wasn’t even trying.

Piccolo assumed he killed Goku and so did Tien, this has to be beyond 1.5x
 

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This is a great topic.

From what I can see, Shenron doesn’t have the ability to change the percentage of power you are at. He can’t force you to go up a level or two.

Young PD should be around 40% of his power, so going full power should logically be a tremendous power-up.

Goku nearly was wind chopped like Yamcha and Piccolo wasn’t even trying.

Piccolo assumed he killed Goku and so did Tien, this has to be beyond 1.5x
On the other hand, maybe Old Piccolo had already raised his power to 70% or so to tank Goku's KHH.
 

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It is. Tanking KHH implied a manyfold gap, but his hits didn't kill Goku. So maybe his "less than half statement" was referring only to the effort behind his hits.
One shotting isn't always consistent, fighters can hold back as well.

He doesn't seem to imply he's powering up for the tank either.
Tanking is a 2x gap. Also not "being killed" doesn't mean much. 50% Freeza didn't kill Goku.
That could also be KKx10 Goku he's hitting as well.
 

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When he removed his cape, he powered up to the tanking gap, but the effort in his hits was lower than that; that's what he meant by "less than half."
Show me the exact panel where you think he powered up.
 

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Show me the exact panel where you think he powered up.
When he removed his cape and started stomping Goku. The stomp looked like 1.2x a gap, the tank was a manyfold gap. So his chi level was many times over Goku's, but his effort was 1.2x a gap.
 

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When he removed his cape and started stomping Goku. The stomp looked like 1.2x a gap, the tank was a manyfold gap. So his chi level was many times over Goku's, but his effort was 1.2x a gap.
1.2x? Lol, what?

Bro got implanted into the dirt on the first punch and appeared to be damn near KO’d.
 

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Goku has never been massacred like this before.
 

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1.2x? Lol, what?

Bro got implanted into the dirt on the first punch and appeared to be damn near KO’d.
Mind that if we assume Initial Young Piccolo was at less than half of his power, we can't give Goku only 10x a boost from the water, unless we go by Initial Young Piccolo < FP Old Piccolo.
 

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Mind that if we assume Initial Young Piccolo was at less than half of his power, we can't give Goku only 10x a boost from the water, unless we go by Initial Young Piccolo < FP Old Piccolo.

I think Goku’s initial power probably has to be the 10x. I don’t think his FP can be. Unlike like you said, if Young Pd is weaker. I don’t think we like that.

I think Young PD should be so powerful that he could conceivably be at full power. And then we find out he’s got way more power to go. I think that’s the vibe.

Where you at on OG Kamehameha? We are all on a 1.33x type of thing, what do you think?

Goku 75
Kamehameha 100
Old PD 200
Old PD FP 500
King Piccolo 1,000
King Piccolo 2,000

Zenkai Goku 100

This is probably perfect don’t you think? You wanna come back to the discord?
 

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I think Goku’s initial power probably has to be the 10x.
Is this what you have in mind?

Goku pre water - 100
Old Piccolo less than half - 225
FP Old Piccolo - 500
Young Piccolo less than half - 900
Goku post water initial - 1,000
FP Young Piccolo - 2,000
FP Goku post water - 2,000
 

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Is this what you have in mind?

Goku pre water - 100
Old Piccolo less than half - 225
FP Old Piccolo - 500
Young Piccolo less than half - 900
Goku post water initial - 1,000
FP Young Piccolo - 2,000
FP Goku post water - 2,000
Yep, more or less. Pre-Water Goku may need to be stronger in relation to Old PD because of the applied Zenkai boost. Include pre Zenkai Goku and the Kamehameha.

Check this out.

Goku 900
Kamehameha 1,200
Goku (Zenkai) 1,500
PD (40%) 2,400
FP PF 6,000
Young Pd (40%) 14,000
Goku 15,000
FP Young Pd 35,000
Goku FP 37,500
 
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