Goten vs Yakon

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He looks pretty pathetic there lol. Realistically Trunks should be stronger given that he was out in space fighting actual battles while Goten was doing nothing on earth, but who knows if being infected by Baby caused permanent gains in power.
 

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He looks pretty pathetic there lol. Realistically Trunks should be stronger given that he was out in space fighting actual battles while Goten was doing nothing on earth, but who knows if being infected by Baby caused permanent gains in power.
Gotne being so weak proves Gohan didn't retain his Ultimate power in his Base form though. So I'm loving that. Blowing up the Kid Buu Hax one power chain at a time!
 

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But then in the same scene he's presented as being on Trunks' level so it's hard to gauge much from this.
 

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But then in the same scene he's presented as being on Trunks' level so it's hard to gauge much from this.
Sure, but we can gauge quite a lot. Yakon is easy work for Goten/Trunks, but close enough if he catches them off guard he can be dangerous.

So all in all, we can effectively prove that the Base Kids being around 1.5x to 2x Yakon is about as much as you'd like to go.

And then SSJ Goten ~ Base Gohan proves that Base Gohan ~ Ultimate Gohan was a complete fabrication.

It's nice to finally debunk that trash lol
 

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Gohan hung in there against Rildo though. I'm not seeing a way for Rildo to be only ahead of Kid Boo.
 

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Gohan hung in there against Rildo though. I'm not seeing a way for Rildo to be only ahead of Kid Boo.
Rildo > Kid Buu (Manga) is all Rildo is suggested to be. At least in his Base Form.

Gohan perhaps has powered up or Rildo might be holding back. He handles Gohan quite easily and shouldn't have any chance to fight Rildo if he was trying.

Therefore...

Either Rildo is suppressed or Base Gohan has massively powered up.

Either way, the Kid Buu Hax is completely blown up as well as Ultimate Gohan ~ Base Gohan being blown up as well.
 

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But Goku is already far above Kid Boo in the beginning of GT. They fly to Imegga and he's equal to Redjic in Base, who is never compared to Boo.

Then all of the space travels occur and Goku gets to M2 being stronger than before. He was above the Mega Cannon Sigma, who he said were the strongest ki he had felt in a long time. Then they fuse into the Super Mega Cannon Sigma who are much stronger, and Goku is still way ahead of them.

Then Rildo is light years ahead of them.

Goku (M2) >~ Rildo >> Super Mega Cannon Sigma > Mega Cannon Sigma > Redjic ~ Base Goku BoGT >> Base Goku EoZ

I just don't see how Kid Boo can be the reference point when he was already surpassed easily at BoGT.
 

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But Goku is already far above Kid Boo in the beginning of GT. They fly to Imegga and he's equal to Redjic in Base, who is never compared to Boo.
Kid Buu > Redjic.

Goku was suppressed in the Black Star Dragon Balls Saga. He was nowhere close to full power.
 

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Kid Buu > Redjic.

Goku was suppressed in the Black Star Dragon Balls Saga. He was nowhere close to full power.
Do we have reason to believe this though? He didn't appear to take Redjic lightly, and despite fucking around in Base against Lood, he still ended up using Super Saiyan against both which would be unneeded if he was so heavily suppressed.
 

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Do we have reason to believe this though? He didn't appear to take Redjic lightly, and despite fucking around in Base against Lood, he still ended up using Super Saiyan against both which would be unneeded if he was so heavily suppressed.
Yeah, it's stated by Goku, he was holding back.

Goku was just trolling the others.
 

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