17 initially was under the impression of piccolo not being a worthy enemy (due to his inability to sense ki and his last performance):
17 afterwards said he'll be serious against kamiccolo:
What are your thoughts into all of this? Do you think all of these statements implies that 17 wasn't...
Goku would kill cell... no chance spc was 1000x stronger than ssj goku from that saga, and he got killed by gohan with a far smaller gap even accounting his regeneration.