Are all suicidal explosions the same?

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Is there any reason why one would amplify more than another? Why would Majin Vegeta's explosion provide a bigger boost than Chaozu's for example?
 

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Is there any reason why one would amplify more than another? Why would Majin Vegeta's explosion provide a bigger boost than Chaozu's for example?
Majin Vegeta has superior ki amp ability than Chaozu.

Better ki amp without a doubt helps a suicide blast
 

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Well Vegeta’s is a 4-5x amp. If we apply the same to Chaozu his base power is like 500-600ish.
This was my thinking exactly. Should give us an accurate placement of Chaozu.
 

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This was my thinking exactly. Should give us an accurate placement of Chaozu.
Nah, this ain’t the way. A suicide blast probably isn’t all that strong. Vegeta has elite ki amplifying abilities, no doubt his suicide blast is severely upgraded due to that.
 

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Nah, this ain’t the way. A suicide blast probably isn’t all that strong. Vegeta has elite ki amplifying abilities, no doubt his suicide blast is severely upgraded due to that.
By this logic Tenshinhan should have an infinitely more powerful explosion than anyone else.
 

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Couldn't he just pump all his ki into a Shin Kikoho and call it a suicidal attack?
Shin Kikoho is already a suicidal attack essentially. Any life force attack is potentially creating a suicidal situation.

I don't think Tien gains anything from going suicidal, he's already mastered this thing.

But yea, if you think Chaozu is doing a superior to Final Flash move in the Saiyan Saga, I gotta say def not.
 

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Why not though? He's killing himself to do it. And ultimately the only thing that matters is how powerful the person is.
 

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Why not though? He's killing himself to do it. And ultimately the only thing that matters is how powerful the person is.
It's weird to think about, but yeah, it seems consistent.

Tien's suicide explosion should be much higher than Vegeta's who's much higher than Chaozu.
 

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How strong do you have the Shin Kikoho?
 

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How strong do you have the Shin Kikoho?
Who knows. It's probably not all that strong. I don't think he's killing the Super Saiyans or Androids or anything.

It might be more of a kiai type of thing or something.
 

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All Ki blasts are Kiai and all Kiai are Ki blasts. Kurilin calls Spopovich's Kiai at Veedel a Ki blast. Trunks calls his Ki blast at Eighteen a Kiai.
 

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Who knows. It's probably not all that strong. I don't think he's killing the Super Saiyans or Androids or anything.

It might be more of a kiai type of thing or something.
He’s holding down Semi Perfect Cell with it lol. It’s insanely strong.
 

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He’s holding down Semi Perfect Cell with it lol. It’s insanely strong.
Yeah, but Tien never thinks he can take out any of the Androids with it. It's strong enough to hold Cell, but I think it's more of a stunlock than actually all that powerful.
 

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Yeah, but Tien never thinks he can take out any of the Androids with it. It's strong enough to hold Cell, but I think it's more of a stunlock than actually all that powerful.
We’re still talking like a 5-10,000x boost lol
 

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