Why didn't Kami use the mafusa/demon containment wave on his evil twin?

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If Mutaito managed it (but died) and Roshi nearly managed it, plus Kami tried it on Majunior ("let that child junior alone"), why didn't he try it on the original KP* (sorry our KP)?

*KP=King Piccolo

edit: Mafuba, not Mafusa. Mafusa is the one they can use in the next Lion King.
 
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I mean after King Piccolo escaped the jar and was killing the main characters.
 

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Yep, that was his way of helping. But then people started to abuse even that
He tried to intervene as Shen in the 23rd Budokai tho... He could have done the same and borrowed a human's body to destroy King Piccolo before Goku did it. He'd have died, but he was committed to land the final blow on Piccolo Junior anyways and Goku had to stop him...

Or he was always internally struggling with the thought of dying alongside his evil side. But he feared Goku would be too kind as to kill Piccolo Junior due to Popo telling the relationship between Piccolo and Kami, even calling Popo a fool for telling Goku that if one died, so would the other one, so he wanted for Goku to kill Piccolo. Weird.
 

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He tried to intervene as Shen in the 23rd Budokai tho...
Indeed he did. This is a complete departure from the status quo. So previously, he has a mostly non-interventionist approach. But with the re-emergence of Piccolo as well as a new means of defeating his nemesis, he has opted to drop the stance and try to help out.

Also remember that if he has to fight Piccolo, what can he do? Sure, he can KO him, but then what? Imprison him at the Lookout?

Or he was always internally struggling with the thought of dying alongside his evil side.
That's definitely part of it. He doesn't want to commit suicide. Duh.
 

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Sure, he can KO him, but then what? Imprison him at the Lookout?
Yes. Throw him in the time-chamber & destroy the entrance, it took SSJ3 Gotenks/Super-Boo level-power to open-up a portal & leave when the entrance wasn’t an option any-more. For that matter you can do that to Cell too or any-one-else really.
 

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Indeed he did. This is a complete departure from the status quo. So previously, he has a mostly non-interventionist approach. But with the re-emergence of Piccolo as well as a new means of defeating his nemesis, he has opted to drop the stance and try to help out.

Also remember that if he has to fight Piccolo, what can he do? Sure, he can KO him, but then what? Imprison him at the Lookout?


That's definitely part of it. He doesn't want to commit suicide. Duh.
But he said he was afraid Goku wouldn't kill Piccolo because of Goku fearing for Kami dying... And he himself tried to land injured Picolo the final blow...
 

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But he said he was afraid Goku wouldn't kill Piccolo because of Goku fearing for Kami dying... And he himself tried to land injured Picolo the final blow...
Exactly. Also, remember, Kami hadn't kept up with Goku's progress, so he wasn't even fully counting on his ability to do so. I don't remember him ever trying to land the final blow on Piccolo, remember, even super injured Piccolo is >> Kami, Kami was going to resort to killing himself, remember?

But yeah, this is all a progression of thoughts here.

Initial Thoughts: Non-interventionist self preservation
Next: Willing to drop this stance and get involved now that he has the right tactic for how to deal with Piccolo (Mafuba) but still self preserving.
Final: Willing to even die for it

It's a progression of ideals due to escalating circumstances.
 

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Yes. Throw him in the time-chamber & destroy the entrance, it took SSJ3 Gotenks/Super-Boo level-power to open-up a portal & leave when the entrance wasn’t an option any-more. For that matter you can do that to Cell too or any-one-else really.
Yeah, this is an interesting option, but if Piccolo Daimao has nothing to live for, he might kill himself, which would end Kami's life as well.
 

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Exactly. Also, remember, Kami hadn't kept up with Goku's progress, so he wasn't even fully counting on his ability to do so. I don't remember him ever trying to land the final blow on Piccolo, remember, even super injured Piccolo is >> Kami, Kami was going to resort to killing himself, remember?

But yeah, this is all a progression of thoughts here.

Initial Thoughts: Non-interventionist self preservation
Next: Willing to drop this stance and get involved now that he has the right tactic for how to deal with Piccolo (Mafuba) but still self preserving.
Final: Willing to even die for it

It's a progression of ideals due to escalating circumstances.
Piccolo was on the ground after Goku's headbutt, barely conscious. Kami was going to finish him and Goku quickly appeared blocking him, saying "if he dies, so do you" ...
 

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Piccolo would die eventually if he was locked into the RoSaT. Eventually he'd run out of water and die.
 

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Piccolo was on the ground after Goku's headbutt, barely conscious. Kami was going to finish him and Goku quickly appeared blocking him, saying "if he dies, so do you" ...
Ah ok. Well, this makes sense considering he was ready to kill himself prior to that. So this is a continuation of the progression of Kami's developing ethics.
 

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He asked Ten to do that. He had said "A God can't commit suicide".
Same idea. Asking someone to kill you is still a form of suicide.

You are getting lost in the semantics of it. The overall point is the same. Kami has a non-interventionist stance that progressively changes due to escalating factors and the introduction of new information.

What exactly are you arguing against here? What's your overall point?
 
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