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Well you are comparing different people. You have to compare lean body mass. But fat will give you some extra pop to your shots as well. There's a ton of fat dudes who throw absolute bombs and are aided by their weight.

That was a big, fat farmer. Not really typical of an average man. I'd say average is 4.5 or maybe even 4. Farmer is a big dude. Shotgun has no ki.

Who cares? Nappa is clearly 8k in the story.

Sure, but I mean, what's the expectation? Toriyama is writing by the seat of his pants and he's made it this good, there's bound to be some issues here and there. It's very minimal.

It's not. His scouter just isn't working properly. We have to bypass some of Gero's statements because Toriyama can't do math so his characters say weird things regarding math at times. Yeah, math wise you can argue SSJ is 5x in the Androids Saga. But we know overall that won't fly for the...

The Base Saiyans are 50x weaker than the Super Saiyans. The Post Rosat Saiyans are more or less 10x the Pre-Rosat Saiyans.

Well you start with the Base Boys Pre-Rosat being around 18 and then everyone gets stronger from there.

She’s well beyond Chappa at least I’d say

Yeah, I'm with that. Yeah, he'd say the same about Chaozu. This is more of a "feels" thing. Yajirobe "feels" like he ought to be comparable to Krillin and Yamcha.

I'm talking about Chaozu vs Chi-Chi. You got Chi-Chi ahead of him?

Where do you place her then? About Chaozu at least?

Yeah, this is honestly a great angle, but I feel like she's typecast into Gohan's mother at this point and I don't think Toriyama thought of that. She's a mom now and she's not a fighter.

But that’s a puny Bear, we are talking about Bear Thief, the largest Bear by far in our current world. And yeah, the big cats don’t really respect crocodiles. Crocodiles have massive stamina problems and have limited forms of attack.

Yeah, that was a huge shark and definitely had Goku and Krillin scared to death. I'd say Goku can contend with the shark if he wanted to though. But the shark could be powerful enough where it's better to run. Same goes for the T-Rex. I'm sure Roshi can fight that thing, but it's close enough...

This is actually a great period in time to scale people. Lots of normies around Gohan that we don't typically get to see. So we need a less than farmer and a greater than farmer range. I think to be greater than Farmer you gotta be a big ass dude. Gohan's rival here is super jakked, where does...

That looks pretty good. He's 5'8-ish if Gohan is 5'9. I think the farmer is a higher power level than most fit people? I guess that makes sense. A big ass farmer is probably gunna knock out most normal people don't you think? The catcher looks like a 4 to me? Perhaps?

Yeah, the Farmer is a solidly sized guy. Average Male being a 4 sounds about right. Do you have any pictures of what an average male might look like here?

Where should Puar, Oolong, Lunch, Bulma be? Like where are teenage boys, where are adult strong women, where are average sized guys. Where would place a bunch of people? Perhaps we can scale people like Roshi, Krillin, and others based on what they look like if they weren't martial artist...

Yeah, this thing is a major problem. Bear Thief is in for the fight of his life here. Bear Thief has weapons, intelligence, and strategy, so he has a real chance. But I'd say Bear Thief will definitely lose hand to hand here. He's probably around Kid Goku's level more or less I'd say. Maybe a...

Well that's big. Bears scale above regular sized crocs though easily.