In the anime, Elder Kaioshin says, he will probably be just enough. Herms has it as he will probably be plenty.
Did the anime alter the line or is that a legit translation?
After reading the manga, it does seem Gotenks indeed has a step or two above Buu. He's really taking what Buu has to offer and giving it back even better.
Is Buu holding back? I dunno. We know he's pissed. Sure, he's mentally weakened, but I dunno. Super Buu is on the losing end of the battle...
What's wrong with the idea that Super Saiyan Gokan (Metamoran) can defeat Buutenks?
What's wrong with the idea that the rivals boost closes the gap between Vegeta and Goku? Like the Majin boost did?
Perhaps Metamoran Gokan = Metamoran Gogeta?
The stronger fighter's extra power not being...
What's wrong with this?
Base Gotenks = 2x Super Saiyan Goten
Base Gogeta = 2x Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta (Not Including the rivals Boost)
Base Kefla = 2x LSSJ Kale
And so on. I think this can work.
Goku is strong enough to power up Gohan enough to where he can defeat Buutenks in Base. It doesn't seem implied that Gokhan would not be able to gain benefits from Super Saiyan.
He'd probably be plenty, the anime says, he'd probably be enough.
If you follow the anime, then you'd have him a...
I think these powers might be close. Gotenks is not a moron, he has to have power greatly exceeding at least Majin Vegeta to even come close to such a conclusion.
Also, Kaioshin thinks Gohan might have a chance against Buu, surely not Super Saiyan Gohan, but Goku must be thinking about Super...
I’ve been able to get away with a 2.5x boost that’s worked pretty well so far.
The only issue I see is that Post Zeta Ssj Gohan ends up on par with his previous Super Saiyan 2 power.
That feels off. But so far so good.
Did he regain any power? He outperforms Good Buu vs Evil Buu against a a stronger Kid Buu.
Vegeta thinks he’s a threat and can produce another Buu and Buu fights so good against Kid Buu.
If it was just Good Buu, Vegeta wouldn’t be worried about another Buu being formed.
If Base Gotenks is indeed above Majin Vegeta, where would he be?
I think it makes sense to put him closer to Majin Vegeta than Majin Buu.
I think it makes sense to put him closer to Good Buu rather than Evil Buu.
Gotenks notices the Super Saiyan boost, but he doesn’t notice Super Saiyan 2...
From what it looks like with the Base Gotenks situations, it seems like fusion transformations are a bit different than normal.
Base Gotenks should be decently above Majin Vegeta initially and above Super Saiyan Gotenks after training.
This clearly implies less of a boost than Super Saiyan...
When Buu's meter is filled up, at what percentage is Goku's ki?
When Buu is finally released and can be sensed, what is Goku's ki percentage now?
Buu Meter = 80-90% imo.
Goku just got started fighting and although it is a brutal fight, I doubt his ki is dropping tremendously. Gohan even...
Kaioshin expects the Saiyans to be stronger than himself, and expects them to need to team up against Pui Pui.
Babidi and Dabura agree.
This seems to be a clear indication of Pui Pui > Kaioshin by a lot. Babidi expects Pui Pui to be finished killing all 3 Saiyans, regardless of Kaioshin's...
Something has to go.
1. Base Boys are relevant to the Base Adults.
2. Piccolo > Base Boys
3. Kaioshin > Piccolo
All 3 of these things cannot co-exist.
The boys power should be substantial, they are able to impress Gohan and Vegeta, but Goku only thinks they are pretty good.
They do a...