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I think Toriyama retconned Gohan into being a Super Saiyan at the Budokai. Even down to the Buu meter. Goku says for Gohan to be like he was against Cell, because Gohan never transformed at the Budokai, it makes sense for Goku to say that then. Everything makes sense if Gohan was never a SSJ2...

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I think if we could have an editor look over this stuff again, some quick simple fixes could be made very easily. The idea of Base Saiyans > Piccolo absolutely sucks, Piccolo did quite well against the Cell Juniors, he deserves some respect and should be around a Cell Juniors level by now...

Super Saiyan Goku 125,000 Super Saiyan Kid Gohan (Power Unlocked) 112,500 Super Saiyan Vegeta 100,000 Super Saiyan Teen Gohan 75,000 Super Saiyan Kid Gohan...

Each tick is 1,000 killi. Super Saiyan goes up to 3 ticks, Super Saiyan 2 seems to go up to about 8 ticks. I think this is probably the most concrete evidence we have of what the anime portrays the Super Saiyan 2 boost as being.

Goku 1,000 Vegeta 800 Gohan 600 Piccolo 400 Trunks 250 Goten 240 Android 18 225

If Gohan was a Super Saiyan at the Budokai, would that alleviate any issues?

I mean, I can make the case that the gap between Piccolo and Initial Final Form Freeza is a larger gap than the gap between Krillen and 2nd Form Freeza Powered Up. Freeza does the biggest transformation in the history of Dragonball. Piccolo says he can offer no help, whereas before he thought...

When Piccolo first arrives versus Krillen who can help against 1st Form Freeza.

Who wins? If they fought each other instead of Beerus, how does it go?

The 3m number cannot work and be logically consistent. Vegeta thinks Krillen and Gohan can be a help against 1st Form Freeza. Yet he thinks Gohan and Piccolo will only get in the way against Final Form Freeza. So whatever gap you have for Gohan/Krillen versus 1st Form Freeza, the gap for...

I think Piccolo makes it very clear that RoF Gohan is a complete weakling, how does he fare against his previous weak self?

Gohan and Krillen are seen to be capable of helping out against 1st Form Freeza, yet Piccolo and Gohan are seen as being incapable of doing anything to help out against Final Form Freeza. This should indicate that Vegeta and Freeza are further away from Gohan and Piccolo then they were against...

The 10x boost for Super Saiyan is our only chance to make any of the Buu Saga implications work. The saga was clearly written with the idea that Super Saiyan is a 10x boost in mind, whenever we go against it, things become extremely difficult to deal with. Super Saiyan 3 equals or rivals the...

If Base Gotenks is Super Saiyan 2 tier, then Super Saiyan 3 is going to be a monster boost. Maybe a 20x boost or so. Base Gotenks 10 SSJ2 Goku 20 SSJ3 Goku 80 SSJ Gotenks 500

I think all power level lists should include this power chain. I think it's super important and a great limiter in how much improvement you want to give to the characters in the early sagas.

Piccolo is a power comparable to the Base Saiyans, so much so he's even superior to the Base Boys post Rosat. Kaioshin is nowhere near the Base Saiyans, weaker than even Pui Pui. Piccolo manhandles Badibi. Kaioshin doesn't know how he'll do against Kaioshin. In the anime, Badibi tries to...

Ok, it's time to put this topic to bed, definitively. Kid Buu is by far the strongest Buu. It's not even a debate. At least for the anime. So we've had multiple statements from Kaioshin declaring Kid Buu as the strongest Buu since his emergence. After Goku and Vegeta decide that they want to...

I've come full circle. There's just no escaping the 50x multiplier. It's just too big, even the author has to admit it, even though he pictured it as 10x. There's too much universal logic behind it, there's no other way. Super Saiyan is essentially a transformation that is "Beyond Kaioken"...

Haven't done one of these in a long time. Not a completed version, but this should suffice in getting it started. Been working hard, getting this stuff better nuanced. Freeza Saga Super Saiyan Goku 150,000,000 Freeza (100%)...