So in an effort to determine something I brought up in Kyo's thread, let's explore this further. Freeza increases his speed against Vegeta and then seems to be forced to go all out against the Final Burst Cannon.
Vegeta is shocked at Freeza's power.
Then we see Goku easily blocking Freeza's...
Yes, this seems to be the likely option. If Gotenks was a Super Saiyan, Buu would only be able to utilize his Super Saiyan power. A transformation not in use is out of reach for Buu.
A transformation is almost like a different being, Buu can only use what is present in the here and now.
Yeah, it most likely isn't much above 1.33x considering his pseudo-Final Flash was unable to do much to Reecome.
Also, I've always thought the best approach to handling true form Freeza's power was to go by this.
No Hands vs Goku = Full Effort Kicking Back Final Burst Cannon vs Vegeta
Warming...
I’d say Pui Pui being around Imperfect Cell level seems to be possible. He kind of looks like him too.
Pui Pui’s movement speed must be on an entirely different level than Piccolo’s or else none of the story makes any sense.
Yeah I think they are the same. The only one who seems to think Present > Future is Trunks, who the author lets us know was being deceived.
Cell never notices a difference and he has more accurate data. Cell knew he wasn’t as strong as the Androids despite being significantly stronger than...