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what indicates Kid Buu wasn’t at full power against Good Buu? why would Kid Buu get so angry if Good Buu is only this strong?

Kid Buu seemed to be stressed and forced to use more effort than Evil Buu though. Kid Buu gets angry, Good Buu lands shots on him even after Kid Buu gets serious. I think Good Buu is much closer to Kid Buu than Evil Buu.

That’s what I keep running into. The Super Saiyan boost being 4x for Gotenks seems like a perfect fit. I do use a 5x Super Saiyan 3 boost though. Super Saiyan Gotenks 540 Super Saiyan 3 Goku 500 Fat Buu 400 Evil Buu 250 Good Buu 150 Gotenks 135 Majin Vegeta 100 This is just about perfect imo.

Did he regain any power? He outperforms Good Buu vs Evil Buu against a a stronger Kid Buu. Vegeta thinks he’s a threat and can produce another Buu and Buu fights so good against Kid Buu. If it was just Good Buu, Vegeta wouldn’t be worried about another Buu being formed.

Sounds about right.

If Base Gotenks is indeed above Majin Vegeta, where would he be? I think it makes sense to put him closer to Majin Vegeta than Majin Buu. I think it makes sense to put him closer to Good Buu rather than Evil Buu. Gotenks notices the Super Saiyan boost, but he doesn’t notice Super Saiyan 2...

But anywhere from 1.5-4x is reasonable for Freeza. It’s a gigantic power up.

I have Freeza doubling in power.

I’m not sure.

It feels like Super Saiyan is definitely nerfed at least. I'm not sure about the other boosts.

From what it looks like with the Base Gotenks situations, it seems like fusion transformations are a bit different than normal. Base Gotenks should be decently above Majin Vegeta initially and above Super Saiyan Gotenks after training. This clearly implies less of a boost than Super Saiyan...

Time. Fighters are capable of maintaining their maximum power for a good amount of time. Super Saiyan Vegeta held on against Android 18 for quite a while before losing steam. Freeza, even with his horrible stamina held on for a bit. SSJ3 Goku held on for a bit. Goku vs Piccolo Jr. did not...

First I proved that Gohan was a Super Saiyan. Then the quotes associated to Gohan when he's fighting Dabura are about Super Saiyan, not Super Saiyan 2, in which Vegeta and Goku both confirm Super Saiyan Kid Gohan > Super Saiyan Teen Gohan.

You are missing what I'm saying. If Super Saiyan 2 is required to defeat Dabura, why is Goku shocked to find out Vegeta has Super Saiyan 2? Why is Vegeta shocked to find out Goku has Super Saiyan 2? If Super Saiyan 2 was required to defeat Dabura, they'd already know each other had Super Saiyan...

No, if Super Saiyan 2 was required to defeat Dabura, then Goku and Vegeta wouldn't be surprised the other had Super Saiyan 2. Which clarifies that they were speaking about Super Saiyan being enough to clown Dabura. It's a clear power-up. They already witnessed him being overtaken, his sudden...

He is. He is drawn as a Super Saiyan. His aura is clearly not Super Saiyan 2. Also, you have to look into the narrative. Why is Vegeta shocked that Goku has Super Saiyan 2? Why is Goku shocked Vegeta has Super Saiyan 2? Yet, they both think that Dabura is easy work. This is simply not possible...

I'm explaining to you why there are clear differences between Super Saiyan Goku, Super Saiyan Vegeta, and Super Saiyan Gohan. Each fighter had commentary on their Super Saiyan forms. 1. Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta think Dabura is a joke, Super Saiyan Gohan does not think Dabura is a joke. 2...

Exactly, Goku has no idea that Vegeta's latent power being released is the majin charm. He thinks it's just Vegeta hitting his full power. But what's really happening is Vegeta exerting his full power, then the Majin charm releasing his latent power. Goku does not know where Vegeta's extra power...

Babidi releases Vegeta's latent power before they notice the M on his head. Their reactions tell us that something had changed. They were relatively calm until Vegeta released all of his latent power. No, Goku did not expect Vegeta to have Super Saiyan 2. The reason Goku decided to use Super...

Their reactions to Super Saiyan Vegeta when his latent power is drawn out seems to go against this idea. Vegeta claims to have the same superiority in all forms. I'd gather than transformation boosts should be applied the same for everyone. But I get it, they aren't anywhere as explicit about...