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  1. Papasmurf

    who do u think is still alive...

    Toriyama said they didn't die, they drifted throughout space. There's also an extra page in Super that shows them back on the moon (which I'm assuming Dende or Kami restored):
  2. Papasmurf

    How strong was Base Baby?

    Probably stronger than Goten, Gohan and Trunks by this point, maybe even stronger than SSJ Goku. I personally think he's 10x stronger than his middle form, because this is the result of Baby growing past his limits due to GO Baby's body growing giant. Makes sense that his power is...
  3. Papasmurf

    Future #17 (30%) vs Freeza-saga Genki-Dama

    He doesn't have regeneration though. What if he fell onto a pile of GT glass as a result of the Genki Dama? Dolltaki
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    Future #17 (30%) vs Freeza-saga Genki-Dama

    I think he could win in a fight due to his infinite stamina but I'm not sure he's above him power-wise. Haven't done a PL list in years.
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    Future #17 (30%) vs Freeza-saga Genki-Dama

    #17 tanks it imo. He was only slightly stronger than this when he put down 2 arms SSJ Future Gohan with ease.
  6. Papasmurf

    Since the bandwagon for this has appeared...

    At this point what do you think is more likely to happen first, SSJ King Vegeta or SSJ/SSJG Yamoshi being featured in some spin-off?
  7. Papasmurf

    Since the bandwagon for this has appeared...

    Why do you think Bardock gets so wanked in spinoffs like Ooishi's completely awful Episode of Bardock manga, and even got SSJ2, 3 and even SSJ4 in Heroes/Xenoverse, whereas King Vegeta doesn't get shit? You'd think with even Raditz and Nappa getting SSJ3 forms in official fanfiction...
  8. Papasmurf

    Manga/Anime where the final villain loses to a previous main villain?

    Griffith is the main villain of the series in general though (unless they do a sequel/continuation that goes into battling the Idea of Evil), it's hard to confine him only to the Golden Age. By that logic, Yami Marik beating Yami Bakura would also be a villain beating a main villian from a...
  9. Papasmurf

    Manga/Anime where the final villain loses to a previous main villain?

    I mean if it counts former villains then a lot of anime rivals would be on this list lol. I'm talking about cases where the final boss lost to someone who's the main villain of only part of the story, while they are both villains.
  10. Papasmurf

    Manga/Anime where the final villain loses to a previous main villain?

    They were allies and not villains in that arc tho :CC
  11. Papasmurf

    Manga/Anime where the final villain loses to a previous main villain?

    Can you think of any aside from Yami Bakura (incarnation of Zorc) losing to Yami Marik (final boss of Battle City, but not the main villain overall)?
  12. Papasmurf

    How strong is the Golden Monkey state?

    You could ask the same thing about Gohan-Boo or Cell.
  13. Papasmurf

    How strong is the Golden Monkey state?

    He didn't do a visible power up though before he tanked Baby's RDB and went on to fight GO Baby. He could just have been holding back his effort.
  14. Papasmurf

    Gap between Trunks and 100% Mecha Freeza

    Iirc Trunks didn't specify when it was, he just said Galu would contract a deadly virus soon and die. In the anime it was after Future Trunks was born, so likely at least a year and a half after Freeza's death.
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    Gap between Trunks and 100% Mecha Freeza

    Do you think his frustration at being unable to best Galu unlocked his SSJ form then? Because in the main timeline he explained that he trained himself to the limit and then transformed out of self-anger at being unable to surpass Kakarotto. I also think Gohan probably had a decent idea of...
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    Gap between Trunks and 100% Mecha Freeza

    Do you think Future Vegeta became SSJ like in the TV special, or do you think he was just a base Saiyan? Because if Future Vegeta was SSJ, he'd have to be miserably weak for 2 arms Future Gohan to presumably think he had a better chance than him.
  17. Papasmurf

    Recent Chapter Discussion

    Toyo is too stupid to be able to think up a new twist, both of them have to be doing the same thing!!
  18. Papasmurf

    List of greatest feats ever in this franchise

    It's from a Dragon Ball Heroes Victory Mission manga iirc. They were wanking off Golden Oozaru Broly, introducing him after there were already two variations of SSJ4 Broly for some reason :troll
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    List of greatest feats ever in this franchise

    Golden Oozaru :Pakl literally tore through the page though.
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    How strong is the Golden Monkey state?

    SSJ4 is faster than Golden Oozaru and has the power of reason though, plus it probably has better stamina than GO due to Galu's body only made into an adult in SSJ4 (which has been shown to mitigate strain compared to a child body). It's superior for the same reason SSJ2 is superior to Grade 3...

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