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Doesn't matter. The Cell Jrs were equal with Vegeta and Trunks. Who were a bit stronger than Piccolo at best. If base Gohan is stronger than Piccolo, then that would mean you have base Gohan =/> SS CG Vegeta/Trunks. So while a MSS, Gohan would have been > 50x stronger than Vegeta and the Cell...

Piccolo was still standing even after Cell ordered the Cell Jrs to fight seriously and kill the Z fighters. So you're saying you think weak Buu Saga Gohan is beating a Cell Jr in base? Vegeta and Trunks were struggling against the Cell Jrs while transformed. How much stronger do you think MSS...

Her human version is atleast. She's called Vomi. Apparently he is the son of the other child Gero and Vomi had, not Gevo/16's template.

Hard to say due to scaling. Gammas = SSB Goku/Vegeta. Orange Piccolo no sold Gamma. Orange Piccolo struggled and was overpowered by Cell Max. Final Gohan no sold Cell Max. So Orange Piccolo is an unknown amount above SSB, Cell Max is above that, and Gohan is a lot more than that. On a low ball...

The movie one. So it acts like it takes place after Broly and ignores everything that has/is happening in the manga. Kind of. Since this takes place after the Broly movie and the maximum power we see Goku/Vegeta use is SSB. This means that Gohan and Piccolo are stronger than Broly movie SSB...

Piccolo fought the Cell Jrs in his "base" form. Kid Gohan wasn't going to be able to pull that off in base.

At what point? Base Gohan in the beginning of the Buu Saga slacked off and was weaker than his Cell Game's self. CG Gohan was never stronger than Piccolo in base.

When did Gohan pass Piccolo in base?

I agree this is what we saw. However, Piccolo was stronger than base Gohan beforehand in the previous arcs. Gohan did not train and should have got weaker. Piccolo did train and should have got stronger. How did Gohan somehow become dozens, possibly hundreds, of times stronger to surpass a...

In Buu Saga, Piccolo is atleast as strong as his Cell Game's self which seemed close to ASSJ Vegeta/Future Trunks. Plus whatever gains he got in the 7 years leading into the Buu Saga. The jump from Kid Buu's defeat and RoF was a few years. You think the saiyans went from needing to transform...

That doesn't really make sense. If he was base Gohan level, then why didn't Piccolo stomp him? This takes place after Piccolo absorbed Kami and trained more. Piccolo was estimated to be SS level before he fused with Kami and was >>> than SS afterwards. How is he losing to someone around base...

About as bad as Frieza and Togoma I imagine.

I'm ready to see a flashback of Elec making the wish for Gas and what the context of it was.

Gero must be packing the heat.

Cooler was suppose to be stronger than Frieza who had a PL of 120 million. Goku's base in Namek was 3 million and Vegeta's was lower. I'm not buying Vegeta's base PL went from < 3 million to > 120 million. That seems like too big of a gap to me.

There is no way SS2 is only 2x SS1. If that was the case why didn't Goku just use Kaio-Ken with SS and kill Cell when he fought him? In the anime, Piccolo tells Vegeta he would have had to tripled in strength to beat Cell and Vegeta just smiles, implying he got much larger gains than 3x. When...

Was flipping through the channels when I was a teenager after school one day. Saw it and thought it looked cool. They were in the middle of the Namek Arc I believe. Noticed it came on after I got home on Toonami. Started watching it and got hooked.

Good point but I don't think it matters. How much of a boost do you think SS2 is over SS1? While we mostly are told it is 2x, in practice it is much more. In the anime, Piccolo tells Vegeta he would have to have tripled his strength in order to fight Semi-Perfect Cell. So even if we low balled...

Vegeta god stomps 16 < Semi-Perfect Cell < ASSJ Vegeta < MSS Goku < SS2 Vegeta even in the android arc.

I agree with this.