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Yet why did goku feel the need to go god form if they were equal? also he had sort of a panicked face on his ssj3 face that compelled him to power up further

if I had to guess I think a multipluer for trunks in his perfect ssj2 state would be 500x which is 100x more than ssj3 goku 400x

Probably I'm not perfect

Perfect SSJ2 Trunks (Manga) did against Goku SSJ3 which is why the latter went Brief SSG to beat him

Fat janemba forced goku to go ssj3 so he must be more or less on that level or above I thought above

Maybe

that he could actually perform better than gas

Granolah

I'm just saying vegeta is extraordinarily durable I didn't say he was immortal

he still lived and endured that

well vegeta is known to be extremely durable taking a spirit bomb head on getting crushed by a great ape gohan getting beaten up by a transformed zarbon getting beat up by recoome getting beaten within an inch of his life by final form frieza

I think he's serious all the time

vegeta

The Fish Oracle is the strongest

Since he can beat an imperfect cell max easily then yeah

I think Gohan Beast special beam cannon can hurt Black Frieza

PSSJB: 100 GP Gohan: 70 GP SSJG: 20 GP #17: 10 GP SSJ3: 4 T Piccolo: 3 T SSJ2: 1 T #18: 0.9 B SSJ: 0.5 B

everything went to crap

Dr Gero programmed them differently in the future timeline.

3 (with difficulty) > 1