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  1. ahill1

    Do you think Vegeta was...

    Prove Vegeta listened to the "I'll go tell everyone" :king
  2. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    I think Mr. Boo being fend off with Kid Boo using his legs only can work with the initial segment of the fight if his chi was constantly getting lower, as Vegeta stated they can get hurt if they fight another Boo. Vegeta likely made note of that in the later part of the fight since it had become...
  3. ahill1

    Z Sword Gohan

    I think they mean that Trunks mastered the Z sword in a similar way Gohan did.
  4. ahill1

    Do you see SSJ2 as the right way to access grade 3 kinda power?

    MSSJ Goku 90 Cell (vs Goku) 100 MSSJ Gohan 110 Cell (vs Gohan) 120 Cell (full power) 180 Super Perfect Cell 300 SSJ2 Gohan 330 That's what I roll with currently. SSJ2 is normally a 2.5x boost, but Gohan, due to an extra rage boost push, got a 3x one. Boo Saga MSSJ Gohan 96 (240 as a SSJ)...
  5. ahill1

    Do you think Vegeta was...

    Factoring Piccolo when saying that fighting in base in the tournament would not change his superior position? Or was he just factoring the ones who were in the plane and did not know Piccolo was participating? If he were factoring in Piccolo, then is his base strong enough to defeat Piccolo...
  6. ahill1

    Z Sword Gohan

    Once fat Boo was formed, Gohan stated he wasn't so strong to the point there wasn't anything he could do. Then Shin asked if he really meant it, and he replied with "... If I'm able to put out my true powers...". So I think hypothetical enraged Gohan (pre Z sword) >~ initial fat Boo... Who was...
  7. ahill1

    Lucci still standing after Zoro

    I remember Zoro was fighting with only 2 swords almost all the entire time vs Lucci and for the final attack, used 3 swords. It was Emma he was not using, right? Makes sense in the context of it draining his energy and needing Haoshoku to be controlled, plus the fact he was likely reserving his...
  8. ahill1

    Z Sword Gohan

    Yes, I agree. Though I think Goku may have been factoring in Gohan releasing all of his dormant power, his true power as emphasized by him earlier when Gohan was about to face Dabra before Boo awakening, in the equation when assessing whether he could defeat Boo.
  9. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    @Papasmurf He only said that in regards to a fusion between Goku and Vegeta (who he only recognized the power btw), so them scaling below Boo makes sense if scaling the adults off Goten and Trunks... Except Boo didn't know about the Potara, which as far as the manga went, was treated as the...
  10. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    @Papasmurf Super Boo held a 2x advantage there, like you said. Vegeta didn't hold even that much of an advantage vs Semi Cell and was still confident in taking a transformed Cell. Is that arrogance? Well, it'd be but not an absurd moronic one, as they at least have the basics that they are...
  11. ahill1

    Do you see SSJ2 as the right way to access grade 3 kinda power?

    I'd say it's hard to fit Cell with his full power if it were a 2x at least for Gohan then. If Cell had already an edge, even if slight, before going full power (as he dismissively kicked Gohan away when Gohan tried to stop him from doing whatever to the Z senshi) and a huge power up to full...
  12. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    The fight was even against a Goku who was not going all out. Whether not going all out meant not going for the kill or just not hitting as hard and using the attacks as strong as he could, it's open. If the latter, then the fight wasn't indicative of how it would have been if Goku used his full...
  13. ahill1

    Do you see SSJ2 as the right way to access grade 3 kinda power?

    Semi Cell (initially) -- 90 SSJ Future Trunks -- 94 SSJ Vegeta -- 100 Semi Cell (FP) -- 110 SSJg2 Vegeta -- 150 Perfect Cell (vs vegeta) -- 300 SSJg3 future Trunks -- 375 Those would be ideal gaps to me. It'd make grade 3 a roughly 4x boost. SSJ2 could be that, I think ppl would use it a lot...
  14. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    Well, as you said yourself, if the KMHMH had a higher amp than the one kid used, then that could explain why Goku had to deflect it in spite of its consequences. It's a special attack anyway, much the same way Piccolo dodged Imperfect Cell's KMHMH despite being considerably above him. It's not...
  15. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    It can be pulling his punches, not attacking as hard as he could. If it was only not killing, that is, making a chi blast strong enough to vaporize fat, but still hitting as hard as he could, it'd likely be worded as "not going for the kill" to cast away any doubts imo.
  16. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    Well, just staying in SSJ3 exhausts him... So if he made the fight longer than it needed to be, as he also needed to wait for Trunks to be approaching the temple, then it'd exhaust him nonetheless. It's not like he was suppressed, just not hitting as hard as he could do. Fat Boo's KMHMH also...
  17. ahill1

    Can Mr. Boo (the one who fought kid) be = Fat Boo?

    Well, I'd call the one who battled Kid Boo by Mr. Boo. And I also think it boiled down to Goku not trying as hard as he could too. Piccolo wondered what'd happen if Goku went all out. Goku didn't want to admit, but he admitted he could have finished fat Boo there but chose not to. So I think it...
  18. ahill1

    Do you see SSJ2 as the right way to access grade 3 kinda power?

    I think some people, me included, see SSJ2 from Gohan in the CGs, the right path to access the grade 2 power from Trunks, though without getting the muscles disadvantage. Basically, he hitting on that kind of a boost but utilizing it in an effective way, being a byproduct of a powered up MSSJ...
  19. ahill1

    Would you take Super's take...

    ... On the kids power? Like, there in the manga there was a strong suggestion they were on the Cell Juniors' level. Vegeta stated his kid was as good as CGs Trunks. Would you let that make you reinterpret whatever take you had of their power from the original manga?
  20. ahill1

    Have the big characters matched the hype?

    I don't think Doffy fell below the hype in any way. Kaido did tho. And Big Mom too, mainly her.
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